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Re: Re: HaHAhAhAha!
Okay, due to my crazy life, I've not been able to reply 'til now. But here, let me try to explain myself a little better to you. The abercrombie genius-boy here, he seems to throw things about, but cannot back them up with anything. You make a valid counter-arguement or two, so I'll explain in as much detail as I can (might be difficult, as it's been around five years since I've really been involved in this thirteen-year classical background that I mentioned).
| quote: | Originally posted by partyprincess
Which post-modern classical works are you citing which do not rely on patterns, harmonic layers and melodic themes? These are present in all types of music, from classical to hip hop. Even in the present day minimalist movement, all these aspects of music exist.
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With this I was referring to works like those of Debussey. Works with harmony that was more based on disharmony than anything else. Let me clarify my previous statement by adding a conditional of sorts to it. With some of the more post-modern classical, some of the 'c-list' material as the conservatory categorizes it, there is less of a dependancy on patterns and harmony and such.
| quote: | | The repetitive melodic lines of progressive, which consist of only several notes, cannot be compared to the melodies found in classical music. I'm sure that any scholar will back me up on this. The rhythms, if you dictated them onto a sheet of paper, would be found to be extremely simple and once again REPETITIVE. |
Classical is repetitive too. Not as repetitive mind you, but there are symbols and such for repetition, noteforms and melodies repeated, and so on. Not as repetitive, but repetitive enough. That said, a lot of prog melodies are incredibly base in nature, incredibly simple, BUT there are others, like those of Charlie May, that are quite a bit more intricate. And there are simple melodies in classical too. This is just a matter of subjectivity. On the whole, classical may be more intricate, but not in all cases. Not at all.
| quote: | | Please reply Ryan, with an example from the progressive repertoire, a theme that is so beautifully used as in the Rococo Variations for Cello by Tschaikovsky. Thanks. |
Charlie May does quite well. His remixes of JoshGabriel's "Wave3", and Bedrock's "Emerald", were quite good. Not saying it rivals 'the masters'. But there is genius in it. Not familiar with cello much @ all, background is in piano.
| quote: | | P.S. Your lack of elementary theoretical knowledge leads me to question your alleged 13 years spent playing the bazooka. It is my opinion that the institution/s which you attended should refund you your hard earned money. |
Again, it's been five years... Memory is not so clear anymore. HahHAhAhahAhaa! I'm sure you understand.
| quote: | | P.S, I've been trying to respond to your post, but in doing so I realized that I didn't really understand what you were trying to say. Enlighten me please? |
I'm trying to say that there are a LOT of similarities between prog and classical. Progressive is not quite as intricate or boundless as classical, but there are a LOT of similarities. That's all.
Last edited by MattVagrant on May-23-2003 at 16:33
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