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TrAnCe CoNtRoL
Made of Love
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: D Town, Michigan, USA/DTA #9
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ok yes an old thread. i had to bring it back because im tripping right now as i right this on some shrooms. i had a half a eighth. good size for a goooooood ass trip. its the 4th of july, independance day for the usa. fireworks. the fireworks were sooooo beautiful. they were the most beautiful things i have ever seen in my life. ok well i cant really describe it, you have to actually do it to know how the feeling is. im writing this cuz im bored, and coming down. coming down sucks.
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Jul-05-2001 05:10
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havok118
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Baltimore, MD
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| quote: | Originally posted by rawkus rowan
hate comments like that. if you don't like it, fair enough, but don't slate other people for doing it. very very closed mind, you should do some research. did you know that the majority of ecstacy deaths are not due to the toxicity of a drug, but to overheating. and thats a big majority too.
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How do you even know that I haven't done research, shit I should know, I've done that drug alot, and after the years of moderate usage, I came to that conclusion, ecstasy...for the most part...is for losers. Don't tell me I have a closed mind, you don't even know me...I am one of the most open-minded people I know. Fact is, nowadays, ecstasy hurts the electronic music scene, and frankly the people that use it piss me off. I accept it, but I dislike it. I find that the majority of ecstasy users are fairly new to the electronic music scene, or drug use in general. They try it a few times, and think they are a "raver", or they think they are hardcore because, "hey I use drugs, I'm cool". So don't slate me for being closed minded, I'd die for this music, I just hate the effect it has on the public opinion of people like myself, that choose not too be seen as a "raver", the conotation it brings with it being "hey you party, you do X and shit?" Hence the blatant comment.
Shrooms on the other hand, are very spiritual, I have no problem whatsoever with the majority of drug usage, and I am very open to different experiences, but I'm also a bitter human being. 
Respect.
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Jul-05-2001 16:40
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Fraggle
trancEaddict Neverland

Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Sydney, AUSTRALIA
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Jul-05-2001 16:40
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fastmp3
ta main sur le zbebs

Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Montreal/Canada & Casablanca/Morocco (the ROOTS of TRANCE)
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| quote: | Originally posted by havok118
How do you even know that I haven't done research, shit I should know, I've done that drug alot, and after the years of moderate usage, I came to that conclusion, ecstasy...for the most part...is for losers. Don't tell me I have a closed mind, you don't even know me...I am one of the most open-minded people I know. Fact is, nowadays, ecstasy hurts the electronic music scene, and frankly the people that use it piss me off. I accept it, but I dislike it. I find that the majority of ecstasy users are fairly new to the electronic music scene, or drug use in general. They try it a few times, and think they are a "raver", or they think they are hardcore because, "hey I use drugs, I'm cool". So don't slate me for being closed minded, I'd die for this music, I just hate the effect it has on the public opinion of people like myself, that choose not too be seen as a "raver", the conotation it brings with it being "hey you party, you do X and shit?" Hence the blatant comment.
Shrooms on the other hand, are very spiritual, I have no problem whatsoever with the majority of drug usage, and I am very open to different experiences, but I'm also a bitter human being. 
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I 100% agree with you , i'm fed up of these candy kid ravers . Here in Montreal the rave scene has big problems because of drugs ... imagine they shut down all after hour clubs and ban raves just because of drugs ...
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Jul-05-2001 16:42
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TrAnCe CoNtRoL
Made of Love
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: D Town, Michigan, USA/DTA #9
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they dont shut them down because of drugs, its just gives the government a good excuse to shut the place down. they always have wanted to stop raves, they just didnt have any legal reason to do it.
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Jul-05-2001 17:50
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Thor
Joe Mushroom

Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Calgary or Iceland.....
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| quote: | Originally posted by Fraggle
heheh...umm yeah tell that to the dead people   
...whether they died from the drug or a side-effect...they ain't around no more   ...and there's a big possibility they'd still be here if they didn't take it
i agree it's a "closed-minded" comment...but i also agree 100% with it too!!!
what kinda example r u setting for others by telling them it's okay!?!?! drugs r bad mmmkay   |
People shouldn't go skiing, it would be likely if they weren't skiing they would still be alive today ...
Life is a matter of taking risks, some small, some greater. All I ever promote is that you know the risks and educate yourself. To say outright drugs are bad is not fair, coke (softdrink) is bad, many medicine's you buy at your local pharmacy are bad for you, driving too fast is bad for you, stress is terrible for you, etc....
If you look at each drug for its own merrits, way the risks, then its often unfair to say its dumb to take it when many go out drink themselves sick, wake up pop a bunch of pills, go eat a greasy hamburger to make you feel better (and clog your arteries.) Did you know heart disease brought about by the brutally unhealthy modern diet of fast food is the #1 killer in the world today.
I won't criticise mountain climbers for taking such risks in their lives, why, because I haven't experienced that exhiliration of that thrill. Why do you think people enjoy bungee jumping, sky diving, rollercoaster rides. Those people are seeking thrills, and in some of those situations putting their lives at risk. Exactly what do you think drugs are often about, its to experience what they offer.
Drugs have been used for thousands of years, is it good for you, no. Is it usually pretty low risk, yes. I'm not suggesting you go out and shoot up heroin, but I am saying that you please not knock weed, mushrooms, mdma, hash, etc. without at least respecting the fact that these drugs when used in moderation or some common sense are not much more dangerous than drinking.
mdma (pure) was legal remember, and yes its higher risk than say weed, but I'm sure if you only took it once in a blue moon you would be pretty safe. Its still a drug that I am weary of since we don't know enough, but I am still smart enough to know that so much hype is surrounding this drug that so much so called information we hear about the risks is fear mongering.
Having an open mind means you should not only not make judgements on something you've never done, but to respect others decisions to do drugs responsibly. Please remember we all take risks in our daily lives, using drugs responsibility is part of society's acceptable risk... Whether you choose to or not, drugs are a part of life, always has been, very likely always will.
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Jul-05-2001 18:10
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Thor
Joe Mushroom

Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Calgary or Iceland.....
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| quote: | Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
I 100% agree with you , i'm fed up of these candy kid ravers . Here in Montreal the rave scene has big problems because of drugs ... imagine they shut down all after hour clubs and ban raves just because of drugs ... |
I do agree X in the electronic scene is kind of crazy, but there are 2 solutions to this problem that society can take.
1. Fear mongering, shutting down raves, passing ridiculous laws that are nothing less than wrong.
2. Dancesafe, promote education, education is the key in stopping deaths and making the electronic scene safer for these kids who don't bother to learn what they put into their bodies.
We all know telling people not to do something because its wrong is often not effective, so why not approach this 'problem' another way. I know theres a lot of E use in Raves, but come on I see E used in bars so much more now. Its all over the place, and instead of the fear mongering and stupid attempts to make laws like the anti-meth prolifiration laws, we should be educating people on this.
DARE and all these anti-drug groups are so often ineffective because once anyone does some serious reading of their own, they see how much of their work is fear mongering, lies, and huge over exagerations.
People who take drugs without any knowladge of their dangers do upset me, I really wish more people took the time to some reading for their own safety.
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Jul-05-2001 18:19
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