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Durafei
the crazy russian



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California

A question first.. How can a track be commercial in one country and not commercial in the other??? Just because a track is popular doesn't mean it is commercial. Commercial track is produced with the purpose of making money by selling that track. To me Commercial is a track that is made using the same old formula and promoted like crazy.

Reading this topic, I'm under the impression think that people think that whatever is popular is commercial. Sorry, but that just isn't true.
Nobody was promoting PVD-For an angel track, yet it is one of the most popular Trance tunes of all times.. Does it make it commercial? No !

In any case, I was listening to a lot of GOA stuff for a while, but
then I switched to uplifting trance. Why ?? Because I like it more !

Just because you don't like certain music style don't call it crap. Respect other people's opinion. Wasn't RESPECT the main motto of all GOA parties??? Or did you just happen to forget that?

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u4ea:[soulstar]
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2001
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quote:
I just got back here, I didn't see his reply so back off!


I'm just saying the way it is. So what if you just got back here? You were the one who started the name calling. You incessantly react negatively to others' comments. You can barely form good defensive arguments when you're pricked.

What you say here tells others alot about you. Frankly, you got too much attitude. When you're like that, it's hard for people to respect your side of the story.

Durafei, commercial is an overly misused term to describe a popular Trance tunes. The misuse is subjective and nothing more. Commercial to me is the endless supply of songs played on mainstream radios and music TVs on a world-wide scale like country; pop; r&b; etc al.. That is the definition of commercialization.

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Gil Shwarts
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Just for your information, I didn't start the name calling, there are some people here who doesn't like it when other dudes have a diffrent opinion so they start name calling them (in that case its me...).
and what can I say? it pisses me off so I prick.

It doesn't sais anything about me to the other people here because this is cyber, i'm very diffrent in real life and you can ask people who met me and are also using this forum...

Its just that i've mentioned a subject that I admit, wasn't too popular to others, I know that most of the people here are Epic, Uplifting Trance fans but so what?
i'm allowed to express my personal opinion, I just wanted to know how you people feel about it and I guess I got the answer right here in this thread...

Thats why I produce mostly Epic and Uplifting trance... because thats what the public like, I can't force them to like Psytrance but I have to tell you that when I close my sets with 20 - 30 minutes of Psytrance, I don't see people leave the dancefloor, I only see more people on the dancefloor witch means that people like Psytrance!


This is my latest Epic Trance release, check it out, tell me what you think about it...

Ggil Shwarts - Losing Gravity



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u4ea:[soulstar]
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quote:
Originally posted by Gil Shwarts
Just for your information, I didn't start the name calling, there are some people here who doesn't like it when other dudes have a diffrent opinion so they start name calling them (in that case its me...).
and what can I say? it pisses me off so I prick.

It doesn't sais anything about me to the other people here because this is cyber, i'm very diffrent in real life and you can ask people who met me and are also using this forum...

Its just that i've mentioned a subject that I admit, wasn't too popular to others, I know that most of the people here are Epic, Uplifting Trance fans but so what?
i'm allowed to express my personal opinion, I just wanted to know how you people feel about it and I guess I got the answer right here in this thread...

Thats why I produce mostly Epic and Uplifting trance... because thats what the public like, I can't force them to like Psytrance but I have to tell you that when I close my sets with 20 - 30 minutes of Psytrance, I don't see people leave the dancefloor, I only see more people on the dancefloor witch means that people like Psytrance!


This is my latest Epic Trance release, check it out, tell me what you think about it...

Ggil Shwarts - Losing Gravity



Gil Shwarts


This is the Gil I like! haha More intelligence, less the attitude.

EDIT: So your saying someone who blatantly disagrees with you one on one, you wont' kick their assess? )

Maybe you're just ahead of your time in the scene. YOu know whats good but the people don't know it yet. Plus, to be diverse in the set with infusion of varied styles is good not bad as you think it is.

I will give a listen.

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YuVaL
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Out There....

im sorry dude!.. you cannot blame people for listenin to the music they like... i love push!!.. first track i heard from them was Universal Nation (Live remix), i fell for that track.. fuckin AMAZING!, so plz dont come up to me and start talkin about some psytrance that you like!!!!!!!.. everyone has their own different style
they should listen to whatever they fuckin want 2, even if its some stupid commercial crap, you cant blame them about SHIT!, and all the crappy dj'z in israel... other then Yahel and astral projection i cant find one disent DJ!, eyal barkan??!, LOL!!, THAT YOU CAN CALL CHESSY COMMERCIAL!, his brother 2... oh ya i forgot ella gotman 2... probably not much known in the US and UK.. but still one hell of a female deejay!..

so give it a thought..

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Eugene
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Maryland USA

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Gil: This isn't Israel, you can't be rude anymore


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quote:

Gil: This isn't Israel, you can't be rude anymore


Whats so fucking funny???

and notice that i'm being rude to who's being rude to me! (thats what the army teaches you...)


Gil Shwarts

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theeyesofdarkness
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: santa monica, ca

gil u came on here bitching that psy was dying then u come back and say that more and more people are liking it.. get your story straight.. not to mention u disregarded my whole post w/ out a comment and only continued to argue based on opions. u are just bitter. thats all.. there is nothing wrong in standing up for what u want/believe but dont do that by trashing other things. your actions could cause someone to look down on psy trance because u come across as a bitter person w/ a luv for psy. well most would be more interested and supportive if it was a happy person w/ a luv for psy. peace!!


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DjTS-NeXiLe
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: the higher state of conciousness

quote:
Originally posted by Gil Shwarts

and notice that i'm being rude to who's being rude to me! (thats what the army teaches you...)


...well all i can say is that the army must have fucked u up, bad. hehe. I mean really.... who comes to the TRANCE ADDICT forum and bitches about today's TRANCE. Crazy f00, go back to israel.

L8's
DjTS

PS: Who the fuck is that person who keeps posting pictures. It makes me laugh and want to punch them at the same time.


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patticus
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: vancouver, bc

yep, and thanks for apologizing too... i retract my undeserved apology
did they teach you those people skills in the israeli army?

no wonder you guys get along with your neighbouring countries so well


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Kurve
Sentient Audio Collective



Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Las Vegas but from Germany

quote:
Originally posted by Gil Shwarts
A wise man once said:

Jesus
at least in Psy trance, there is a meaning to the music, you get to acually fell your feelings, forget about world hunger, wars and all that crap and just "be together" with the rest of the people in the party!

Thats what psy trance is all about!

Gil Shwarts


hey how can u denie all of us by saying there isnt any meaning to the trance we listen to ...that must be biggest ignorant statement anyone has ever been said......Music is Music whether its just banging on some drums or a full out orchistra...... every music has a meaning...to us this so called commercial trance gives us probably the same meaning and feeling as Psych trance does to you...so u saying that psych has meaning rather then the other trance genres.... thats just immature and ignorant statement....ok ok ok ur tired of it ...thats ok we arnt saying u should love it like all of us...but denieing the right to have meaning and have a good time listening to our style is fucked up.... and if anyone came up to me and said my music was commerical shit and doesnt have meaning and denied me the right to party ..i probably would slap them behind their head!!!!


quote:
Originally posted by Gil Shwarts

Dude, I've heared and seen Dumonde... they are awsome, I myself have all their albums, mixes, remixes and shit but its only because the people like them so I play them!
I also saw the crowd there... the avarage age was 15!!!

the avarage age, if you want a good party, should be 20+!


Ok u say there awsome but u down them ...hmmmmmmm i just think your confused buddy....... and if you only dj songs cuz the crowds like it then ur aint a legit dj and should be more true to your self.....cuz if you call the tunes of dumonde or anyother commerical and U dj them ..well then in your own words ur commerical as well!!!! ......so a hint of edvince.... play what u like and be true to your self when you dj...... no one will respect u if you only dj tunes that the crowds like....being a DJ ...the sets are the djs form of expression and shows there character ..... so dj songs that u only like and not because the crowd wants them....play all psych trance some may like it some may not atleast your being true to your self........ when i dj i like to play those so called commerical songs that you mentioned cuz they give me a inner gut feeling of happyness...its not cuz the crowd likes them its cuz it expresses me

so good luck with djing =) peace

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DjTS-NeXiLe
mixAddict™



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: the higher state of conciousness

quote:
Originally posted by patticus
yep, and thanks for apologizing too... i retract my undeserved apology
did they teach you those people skills in the israeli army?

no wonder you guys get along with your neighbouring countries so well

woooooaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!! hahahahaaha. LOL..... good call patticus. good call haha.

PS: Check out www.pred.de israely boy


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Old Post Jul-07-2001 13:21  Australia
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