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heaven scent
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Scunthorpe UK

haha! this thread is ace Americans will never be as cool as us

trippennuts> homophobia certainly isn't cool either, get a life hun


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Old Post Sep-18-2003 22:49  England
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Az
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Walking to John O'Groats for some spastics

quote:
Originally posted by heaven scent
haha! this thread is ace Americans will never be as cool as us

trippennuts> homophobia certainly isn't cool either, get a life hun

YKTS

trippennuts is a fucking wanker rache, marco v hadn't even started his mix of 3rd earth, and the guy said he had it on acetate

this thread fucking rules
art, you sad fuck

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Pio
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Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1

quote:
Originally posted by trippennuts
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! I know that fuck just didn't say "OH, HE SOUNDS AMERICAN. AND HE IS TRYING TO SOUND EUROPEAN". Here we go again, with this dumb ass bullshit. "European's are such much cooler than american's" blah fuckity Blah.

Have you seen half of the fucking euro dj's? They all look like a flaming pile of gay.


Fucking... Gayer than Gay Gay0rson.


Fucking, blond hair.. blue eyed.. FAGS.

MWHAHAHAJKSAHDFKHSDGH

>=)


It doesn't have to do anything with being cooler, or sexual preference for that matter, at all. It has to do with culture. Face it,the type of dance music we mostly listen to here is European and its immediate roots are Central/Northern European for many reasons of cultural evolution and historical circumstances that led to that fact. You can go even deeper into the analysis if you have a well trained ear and distinguish between what sounds Dutch and what sounds German and what sound Belgian and what sounds British and so on. Heck, you can even listen to Adam Freeland and Infusion and tell that they're Australian. Or Nu NRG that sounds so obviously Italian. Same goes with BT and G&D as having an 'American' sound in their music. All of the dance music movements have some common links and are influenced by the mvts of different countries, but they do differ in terms of region because SOUND naturally adapts to different settings and scenes. I have nothing against American dance music, on the contrary. I love seeing producers embrace their roots and juxtapose them with the influences of global dance music. That's when you become original.

Of course dance music is GLOBAL, but music as any art is not so simple. Surroundings alter the final product, they are supposed to.

My criticism of Datt's work was supposed to be constructive, and I'm sure that a lot of people here understand what I mean. As I said, he's a talented producer.

Go ahead and reply with homophobic remarks about Europeans, although I think that that behavior should not be tolerated and you should be banned for that. I'm not gay nor European, but you have to recognize that they are people too . You should apologize to the gay and European TA community. That is all.

Old Post Sep-18-2003 23:13  Puerto Rico
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Pio
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quote:
Originally posted by Az
YKTS

trippennuts is a fucking wanker rache, marco v hadn't even started his mix of 3rd earth, and the guy said he had it on acetate

this thread fucking rules
art, you sad fuck


haha, figures.

quote:
Originally posted by umes23

criticizing music for "trying to sound european" is also incredibly stupid. electronic music should not be fucking identified with a region. music has qualities of its own to go by. labelling with continents or countries is completely retarded and not justified.


it's not retarded, it's musicology 101.

Old Post Sep-18-2003 23:16  Puerto Rico
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Ian
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK

quote:
Originally posted by trippennuts
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! I know that fuck just didn't say "OH, HE SOUNDS AMERICAN. AND HE IS TRYING TO SOUND EUROPEAN". Here we go again, with this dumb ass bullshit. "European's are such much cooler than american's" blah fuckity Blah.

Have you seen half of the fucking euro dj's? They all look like a flaming pile of gay.


Fucking... Gayer than Gay Gay0rson.


Fucking, blond hair.. blue eyed.. FAGS.

MWHAHAHAJKSAHDFKHSDGH

>=)


in the words of solarcoaster - you're so cool fucking retarded yanky ripping boy who thinks its cool to get 'cd-rs' of things that blatantly didn't get to you how you said, I'd love to hang u up and let the gay people plus the dj's kick the shit out of ya, would be good for a larf

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UWM
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Parsons STFU.

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Kaiser
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LOL i should have kept this thread to myself

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George Kendall
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: York

quote:
Originally posted by Az
this thread fucking rules
art, you sad fuck


lmfao innit

As if half of you would be sticking up for datt if he hadn't got 2 mixes on vandit.........


Especially art, u fucking Datt humping nob end

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Az
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quote:
Originally posted by UWM
Parsons STFU.

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DaveSZ
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Location: ATX

quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
It doesn't have to do anything with being cooler, or sexual preference for that matter, at all. It has to do with culture. Face it,the type of dance music we mostly listen to here is European and its immediate roots are Central/Northern European for many reasons of cultural evolution and historical circumstances that led to that fact. You can go even deeper into the analysis if you have a well trained ear and distinguish between what sounds Dutch and what sounds German and what sound Belgian and what sounds British and so on. Heck, you can even listen to Adam Freeland and Infusion and tell that they're Australian. Or Nu NRG that sounds so obviously Italian. Same goes with BT and G&D as having an 'American' sound in their music. All of the dance music movements have some common links and are influenced by the mvts of different countries, but they do differ in terms of region because SOUND naturally adapts to different settings and scenes. I have nothing against American dance music, on the contrary. I love seeing producers embrace their roots and juxtapose them with the influences of global dance music. That's when you become original.

Of course dance music is GLOBAL, but music as any art is not so simple. Surroundings alter the final product, they are supposed to.

My criticism of Datt's work was supposed to be constructive, and I'm sure that a lot of people here understand what I mean. As I said, he's a talented producer.

Go ahead and reply with homophobic remarks about Europeans, although I think that that behavior should not be tolerated and you should be banned for that. I'm not gay nor European, but you have to recognize that they are people too . You should apologize to the gay and European TA community. That is all.




Most of the artists I listen to were influenced by Chicago and New York house.

Parsons you are dense man.

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torontotrance
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Registered: Apr 2001
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Gay Nightclubs playing house music started the whole music gambit rolling. Gay deejays playing to gay kids and some other people in gay nightclubs. That is who house got started...then it moved to chicago...where gay deejays played house...influenced the belleville 3 (may, atkins and saunderson)....which led to techno....which led to....you get the picture.

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Pio
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1

quote:
Originally posted by torontotrance
Gay Nightclubs playing house music started the whole music gambit rolling. Gay deejays playing to gay kids and some other people in gay nightclubs. That is who house got started...then it moved to chicago...where gay deejays played house...influenced the belleville 3 (may, atkins and saunderson)....which led to techno....which led to....you get the picture.


quote:
Originally posted by DaveSaenz
Most of the artists I listen to were influenced by Chicago and New York house.


true. when i say the immediate roots of the music we listen to i mean euro trance and its immediate roots such as german techno, which was an evolution of the music exported from Chicago, Detroit, NY etc and so on. music that was adapted to european culture and became what it is today

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