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Christopher B
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This thread is fascinating... I never realized that so many are involved with the abstract noise artform. It is indeed far from "pleasant" music, but yet admirable for being so eccentric. I think those quotes of Douglas Kahn about using noise to clear the mind is an intriguing idea, I'd love to read his book.

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Cryogenic
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quote:
Originally posted by Acid Junkie
if posssible, try to get a hold of this book by douglas kahn. his research is on how, why, and when noise came to be part of aural art as a form of avant-garde expression. the book is very well written and has a tremendous amount of material inside (it's over 400 pages long) that should give u a good insight on what art of noise is all about. read it!


No thanks. If i have to be saturated with, and told by a book why i have to like something, then funk it.
Just wondered whatyou think.

PS : This post, by me, is art

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chris_norris
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quote:
Originally posted by Cryogenic
No thanks. If i have to be saturated with, and told by a book why i have to like something, then funk it.
Just wondered whatyou think.


I dont think Acid Junkie was suggesting that the book would neccesarily tell you why to like the noise, more that it might give you insight into why other people might be attracted it.

I like this thread, it's interestingly different. Personally I don't understand the noise, but then again I've only listened to the La Vie C'est Diabolique track


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whiskers
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_norris
I dont think Acid Junkie was suggesting that the book would neccesarily tell you why to like the noise, more that it might give you insight into why other people might be attracted it.




yes, but myself and cryogenic were both asking the noize adddicts in this thread to tell us why THEY love this music.


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Cobalt
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_norris
I like this thread, it's interestingly different. Personally I don't understand the noise, but then again I've only listened to the La Vie C'est Diabolique track


I want to know what that track samples.

I went looking on Komprex's website and couldn't find it. I might add that the attitude and elitism on his website borders on parody.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cryogenic
No thanks. If i have to be saturated with, and told by a book why i have to like something, then funk it.
Just wondered whatyou think.

PS : This post, by me, is art


rofl. nowhere in my post did i say that u should read it to understand why u have to like the noise. reading it could help u comprehend why *other* people find noise enjoyable and, in some cases, healing. yes, noise can be curative, which u would learn if u read the book. but u seem to be too dense to even begin to realize that there's more to noise than just random knob twiddling. u are probably one of those people who choose to ridicule anything that is not in conformity with their perception of art, just for the sake of it. were u to visit an abstract-art gallery, u would probably be laughing your ass off, thinking "omfg, how fuckin ghey is this?" that is some trivial, one-dimensional thinking u've got there.


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Noisician
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quote:
Originally posted by chris_norris

Personally I don't understand the noise, but then again I've only listened to the La Vie C'est Diabolique track


la vie c'est diabolique is not noise. it is something different.


quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
yes, but myself and cryogenic were both asking the noize adddicts in this thread to tell us why THEY love this music.


go pursue some research on noise-therapy theory. u'll get your answer (at least for my case).


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Originally posted by Cobalt
I want to know what that track samples.

I went looking on Komprex's website and couldn't find it. I might add that the attitude and elitism on his website borders on parody.


the track sampled is called "la vie c'est fantastique" and is by sms feat. rehb (link)

and yes, komprex is known for his mighty l33tness he also hates nu style gabber and trance.


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chris_norris
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Originally posted by Acid Junkie
la vie c'est diabolique is not noise. it is something different.


Sorry for the generalisation mate, I understand the difference now.



How big exactly is the interest in noise? I mean does it have a relaetively big following or not? Just curious...


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Originally posted by DJ Nuclear
yay. someone who likes crazy stupid noise as much as me! Do you know www.echelon.be ? There's some interesting industrial noise stuff there. I like occult whining sluts too, but they don't seem to have much music online anymore.

OVERDRIVEN PINK NOISE EEEEEE

stuff like this I like:
http://www.echelon.be/Installation%...0Le%20Chien.mp3

I think it's artistic in the way abstract art is.


holy fuck.

omg.

that was scary.

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Sand Leaper
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Yea, that track is menacing, but the fact that noise here is turned into art is very fascinating, since noise is usually a negative term.


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Cryogenic
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quote:
Originally posted by Acid Junkie
rofl. nowhere in my post did i say that u should read it to understand why u have to like the noise. reading it could help u comprehend why *other* people find noise enjoyable and, in some cases, healing. yes, noise can be curative, which u would learn if u read the book. but u seem to be too dense to even begin to realize that there's more to noise than just random knob twiddling. u are probably one of those people who choose to ridicule anything that is not in conformity with their perception of art, just for the sake of it. were u to visit an abstract-art gallery, u would probably be laughing your ass off, thinking "omfg, how fuckin ghey is this?" that is some trivial, one-dimensional thinking u've got there.



FFS. How do you know im not more openminded than you, just because i dont like this ? Juging from what you write and what you say you like, id say im way broader in what i like and appreciate.
You've said along this thread that everyone not liking this are ghay og wankers. Thats really openminded.
Your arguments and thinking reveals your teen-mind, and just proves my previous posts. You have also, once again, failed to explain the effort, the art and appreciation.

Cheers

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