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| quote: | You are completely lostDo you think its a good thing what commercial HIp shit is spreading, that those messages are positive?
I can appreciate the messages underground hip hop has, its lyrics and stuff, but not commercial shit..
You dont know shit about the iimplications that have been caused becuase of this music... kids glorifying TUPAC becuase he is a gangster that likes to shoot up East side "******s" and kill Biggies kids and MOther"
What kind of message are these hip hop artists sending to Youth as they promote 'pimpin'.... for fucks sake look at the big picture..
Commercial HIP HOP IS CORPORATE OWNED idiot! THose idiot ex-gang members would be no where wothout the head honchos that control and promote their very existence in this scene.
Tell me how commercial hip hop is not VAIN.... you didnt answer that in your post.. alll you could do is whine!
And explain to me how the HIP HOP commercial image is a positive one for Blacks? HOW!?!?!?
IT IS NEGATIVE AND DISRESPECTFULL....
learn your shit before you spew it out of your mouth |
I think your a little bit more lost than I am, actually trying to associate with what's on the radio with actual hip hop. I know my shit, I can honestly say that I have a fair knowledge of hip hop, so.
1. Tupac. He was never a 'gangsta' or hustler. If you really look into his meanings and intentions in his documentaries, lyrics and sleeve note poems, he IS trying to spread a positive message, it's his aggressive, loud spoken delivery is what characterizes him to the media and clueless public as a 'gangsta' and 'thug'.
2. Your telling me I don't know shit about hip hop and it's implications? I'll know my shit before I spit it out, but do us a favor and know who the fuck your talking to before you spit yours. I won't even bother with this one. Just not worth my time defending my stance on hip hop and how it's positive, REAL message has been a focal point in my everyday tasks.
Yeah I do see the big picture, and apparantely what differs between you and me is, that I see the small one too. Not all hip hop HAS to be socially conscious, or political. We can't have 30 Gangstarrs, or a dozen Dead Prez's...remember, hip hop music started out as 'people' music, block rocking party breaks and MCs who speak on issues and personal viewpoints, not a fucking democrat convention or debate, so stop viewing hip hop as a saviour to this world, cuz it can't, won't and will never be. It's music. It's personal.
And you would think after I said what I said, I wouldn't know that commercial hip hop is coroporate owned? Maybe you have the wrong idea of who I am, but I'm not stupid I can assure you that. But yes, again we go back to the topic of big picture vs small picture: take Jay Z for example. Even in one of his songs, he addresses the fact that his money making songs are just that: money making. The rest of his CDs are songs that really convey what Jay does best, not another stash of top 40 club hits.
| quote: | | And explain to me how the HIP HOP commercial image is a positive one for Blacks? HOW!?!?!? |
How bout you cut off the automatic association with hip hop and the word 'black'. You being Mr. Righteous, should know that his association is stereotypical, not to mention the term 'black' denotes skin color not character. Shouldn't that have been obvious to you, Reverend Jesse Jackson?
Imagine if media was centered around promoting good values for youths and whatever you said. I GUARANTEE you that EDM would not have gotten this far, and every hip hop song and or group would be a Will Smith clone...squeaky clean, non violent nursery rhyme party tracks. I'm sure a 6th grader would have no clue what Budden says when he spits:
"Look, sometimes the truth can hurt you//
So I blow smoke right back at the truth commercial."
| quote: | | Tell me how commercial hip hop is not VAIN.... you didnt answer that in your post.. alll you could do is whine! |
| quote: | | I'm just sick of these half assed attempts to decrypt a musical culture that has become so exploited for the wrong purposes. |
You happy? Now go resume your freedom crusade in trying to liberate the blacks that are oppressed.
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