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forsakend
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ROFL!!!!


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forsakend
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Brooklyn, New York City

Heres some facts (RaVerSurGe's theory ) you dont have to agree....:

Trance died early 2002 after tiesto and other were massproducing quality traxx... then it just... went downhill....

trance is in hibernation..... push and airwave are releasing new albums in 2004.... we must adapt people!!!!!

adapt to the progressive house, house, (never italian hardstyle cheez!!!!!), perhaps hardcore (i've been looking into lady dana myself).... andy other genres.... i've been very much into yunus guvenen/sultan & tonedepth/markus schulz/etc etc.... THIS IS WHY MANY SAY ITS THE YEAR OF THE PROG!... cuz trance died last year.... its just in hibernation.... A REVIVAL WILL COME!!!! and if we stick around we'll be the veterans... who lived through it... heh

go into hibernation mode with trance till about summer 2004... maybe late spring.... then is when you'll hear quality trance... it has been prophesized!

EDIT: an amazing trance track will come about once a month... in mid 2004 it will be more like 10 times a month


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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by forsakend
Heres some facts:

Those look more like opinions to me.


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Matty V
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Registered: Aug 2003
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Trance has seen a resurgance in 2003, tho in the last 3 months or so decent productions imo have hit a bit of a stand still. But this might mean we guna see a new flood of tunes in the new year

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forsakend
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Brooklyn, New York City

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Those look more like opinions to me.


well they're my facts .... making them my opinions... you win.. happy? too burnt up from the last flame warsto start more flame wars; rofl


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irishclubbing
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You gotta look DEEP underground my friend. its all there but you have to go looking


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Jimmy
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Re: Trance dead in the water

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Face it: the genre is simply drifting with no real artistic innovation. It's the same cookie-cutter sound rampantly dominating production. Nothing distinctive. I've been digging into pre-98 production because there isn't enough good new work to keep my addiction satisfied, er, I mean, as much good work as there used to be. To my surprise, I've found many older productions exceeding today's. This is not doom and gloom; trance has been declining since 2001, and people who say it isn't are lying to themselves or ignoring what trance used to be. I remember people prophesizing that Gabriel & Dresden would be the saviours, but the actual results have been marginal, particularly with the plethora of radio remixes.

I've heard nothing of particular note, with rare exception, in the last six months. Six months!

Can't someone do a Matt Darey, work his or her ass off and help the genre back on its feet? Oh, who am I kidding. This is part of a cycle, irreversible by talent. Inevitably there will be upswing, but no time soon, I think.

PvD has gone downhill. The "second coming" of Matt Darey fizzled. BT has moved away into other artistic directions. Ferry's new sound isn't catching (even though I think it has promise). Lange and Armin are recycling. Tiesto is in a production hibernation (though his return may change things). Sasha almost never produces. ASOT is a wasteland.

Do I feel alone? Am I just jaded?

If not, what to do now? What promising artists do you think are out there in this desert?


Hmmm..thats an interesting posting you've made. But i'm curious, could you name a couple of older tracks that you find, as you say, eexceeding today's? And then you name a couple of tracks that are played on asot and most of tranceaddict finds its really great, but which you think that they're not as great tracks as everybody thinks it to be?

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we love sundays
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Registered: Dec 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by SuperFarStucker

Sasha, Holden, Gabriel and Dresden, Junkie XL, Infusion, Hybrid etc...

these people ARENT LIMITING THEMSELVES TO THE SAME DAMN THING OVER AND OVER. There is inevitably commonalities (For example, G&D tend to make vocal tracks, if you doubt their vocal less production capabilities take a listen to grayarea - one for the road (G&D interstate 5 mix)) in their productions but they are overall eclectic, amd interesting

note: flame away...


g + d = commercialised dance music..

sasha = cowpander.. STILL?

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Pio
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Registered: Jun 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by we love sundays
g + d = commercialised dance music..

sasha = cowpander.. STILL?


What's your obsession with commercialism? Who cares. Stravinsky used to sign his name with a $($travinsky) and used to sign napkins and sell them to fans. Dalí 'commercialized' his skills just as much. Did that make their art any less valuable?

If there's something that art history has proven is that 'commercial' and 'quality' are not exclusive to each other.

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we love sundays
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Registered: Dec 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by YaleTrance
What's your obsession with commercialism? Who cares. Stravinsky used to sign his name with a $($travinsky) and used to sign napkins and sell them to fans. Dalí 'commercialized' his skills just as much. Did that make their art any less valuable?

If there's something that art history has proven is that 'commercial' and 'quality' are not exclusive to each other.


well then in that case...
LETS ALL LISTEN TO CHINGY

best music ever made
RIGHT THURRR IN MY HURRR

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refuge
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Registered: Dec 2002
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just have faith in m.i.k.e. with his upcoming push and plastic boys

albums. don't leave out l-vee and the rest of the banshee worxx

label for that matter.

-reZ


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forgot to mention leama and moor and joof.

-reZ


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