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ali92
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Fishtown, Philadelphia
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Ok, some things got changed around from the original post... Here goes:
Does anyone on here happen to know the likelihood of me finding a girl-friend (aged 16-20 years) who's really into Electronica (all-encompassing but, mainly Trance); interested in learning about technology, culture, and global travel; fluent or at least intermediate in English; well educated (I don't care if it was in college, a degree doesn't tell much (this is no lie either). It's actual knowledge that really counts); and interested in world cultures, differences, etc. that lives in either Japan (preferrably the Tokyo, or any major urban area) or the north-eastern USA? I say all of this because:
A. Even though I like some other genres of music to a small degree, there's nothing like Electronica and the sweet sounds of those sythesisers & sequencers.
B. My life practically has to do with computers. I'm on it all the time when I'm home and I'm very anal about having files & folders sort correctly and neatly into a catalogue-like way without any catalogueing software (it's possible to do this easily too: D:\Audio\Music\Albums\Artist Name, The\Year\Album Name, The\CD ###\(files)).
C. I know no other languages besides English and even though I plan to learn Japanese, I'd never be able to speak it the way I speak English. Two people can never fully understand each other (mainly on a higher level) if they both don't know the language they're speaking very well. Plus, I have trouble breaking certain terms down for people who don't have much of an idea at all of what's being spoken about.
D. I don't plan to live in any one place for long. I'd like to be always travelling because I enjoy the different (and unique) ways of living & culture backgrounds in different areas. This can't be said about everyone, though. Some people want to settle in one place or stay where they are right now. These type of people won't be best for me as conflicts can occur, as I want to already leave the US come 2005 and go to different countries often after that (I'll probably never [want to] stay in any one place for longer than two years or so).
E. I plan to be producing Electronica in the future so, Electronic music & computers will be a very important aspect of my life. It makes sense that a potential romantic partner for me would appreciate this type of thing, even though they don't have to directly get involved with production with it, as it is a tough job. I'd want to take them with me if I were to be travelling all over. In other words, I don't want to be alone.
Please get back to me on this (hopefully fixed up?) issue...
Some things I'd like to add after seeing all of your posts include:
- I don't go out much for leisure because I really don't know where to go most of the time. Being alone going to the following places is pretty boring, if you ask me...
--Clubs
A. No-one plays Trance (or anything even remotely similar to it) around here.
B. Plus, even if anywhere did, there's almost always some kind of violent activity that goes on at or around the majority of clubs in our area. Also, DUI drivers are responsible for a number of accidental deaths many times out of the year. That's nothing to take lightly at all.
C. Cost is high for an event you may or may not like at all. Afterwards, you may wonder if it was worth it at all...
--Theatre
A. Well, I get to see most movies 4 months after they come out anyway, so why bother wasting 20+ USD just to see one at a theatre? Also, no-one I know goes to theatres anyway.
--Other cities/places, for leisure
A. I know no-one to see in these other cities/places.
B. No-one I know has the free time to go with me to these places, even if I did know people there...
-Some people on here say that you have to take chances to get to know someone. Well, I don't want to be in a relationship for months just to get to know someone if it isn't going to work out in the long-run. In other words, I don't want to waste time, as time's very precious, if my goal is not just a friendship but, something more. I want to get to know someone extremely well quickly so I'd know if the person's right for me. I tend to let others know how I am right off the bat, or soon afterwards so, that isn't a problem on my side. I want to know someone's ultimate goals in the beginning (I let them know right away), as this'll probably factor into the relationship to a certain degree, etc.
-Someone on here said I can't talk about anything personal. I can but, I have not much to speak ABOUT. That's what it is. The only things I have opinions on are things most people just don't think about (or want to talk about) (I don't want to go through what it is again, anyone who has spoken to me on IM before KNOWS what I'm talking about), and vice-versa. Someone also said "listen to other people and the things they talk about..." - I have no way of striking up a conversation regarding what the majority of my generation (from what I've heard in the past) speaks about (sometimes clothing, current hit movies, Rap/R&B/Hip-hop, Rock/Pop, school-related (is all I have to say about it is just tens of reccomendations of CHANGE of the whole US curriculum, nothing to do with the task-at-hand), sporting (I don't even watch or play those; so I don't "follow" them), cars (I don't borther with those) and more) so, that's at a cul-de-sac.
-In response to | quote: | | Having a girlfriend, like having lots of money doesn't necessarily make you happy. (Money doesn't buy happiness et al) I know people in miserable marriages cause they bought the societal lie. Just go out and make your life's goal "the pursuit of happiness" I actually find hanging out with people 1 on 1 very boring for the most part, so I just dont do it. I would much rather spend hours listening to music or playing video games. Having a gf is one area of life where people need to seriously start saying "dont do it, just because everyone else is" | - I don't care about money. I'm WELL AWARE that money doesn't buy happiness. Everyone tells me about working & making money will fix my life, etc. It will not because I don't care about having a huge income if I'm not going to share it, and my experiences with someone. I believe in shareing. That's why when someone comes over my house, they get a huge amount of CDs (of material they usually like) from me. Because I want to share my "high" (or not-so-high?) amount of music and knowledge with all. I don't want a g-f JUST because someone else I know has one. It may sound that way but, it's because my interests, current, past, and future lifestyle is extremely different from what the majority of people's is. When's the last time you heard of someone who is desperate for travelling the world (well, at least 6 out of the 7 continents and over 50 countries) and making huge DJ set records (100-hour+) and actually did it at a young (under 24 or so) age? I don't feel insecure about travelling internationally at a young age but, a vast majority of people seem to. They feel that leaving their homeland is for when they get older and not right away. I too, know people (in my own family and others!) who are or were once (or more than once) in miserable marriages (my parents, both uncles & aunts, all friends of my parents). The problem is the majority of people who get married jump straight int it without letting a considerable amount of time pass in their relationship, as well as get opinions about all of life. These couples don't test theirselves in different environments, etc. to see how well they get along. I don't want similar to happen.
That's why I wrote the long passages above this one. Because I believe that everyone should be clear & detailed about things. I don't believe in double standards. I believe in being fair. I don't believe in domination, etc. I only believe in what's right, logical, just, fair, and understandable. I believ in treating others how I want to be treated. "Take care of it and it'll take care of you" is something my uncle Phillip always said about cars. This applies to many things in life, as well. Something else he said was "Look before you leap". This applies just about everywhere too. I tend to over-apply this slogan, though, behaving overly-cautious.
-In response to | quote: | | Although I've found a few girls who are interested in trance as well... | - How FEW is this? A number or percentage here?
| quote: | | Usually the kinds of girls who are into this kinda stuff aren't very noticeable and don't really stand out, you have to do a bit of digging. | - What do you mean here? What type of "digging" do you mean?
| quote: | | you can always try to get girls interested in your interests | - This has never worked for me at all so, that's out.
| quote: | | Why look for a woman who has male interests? | - Because there isn't much else I do with my life for leisure besides read about different subjects on the Web, play video games (mainly RPGs & futuristic racing (F-zero, Wipeout), though), and listen to Electronica. I don't have many other interests (well, politics but, again: Is all I'm interested in is the CHANGE of whole laws to making it more fair instead of money-hungry) besides those. I wouldn't have anything in common at all with girls if I didn't listen to club-style music (this applied to me 8 years ago). I have changed for the better over the years but, not enough to perform well in our society. That's why even though I've done well academically in school, I needed to be in very small classes in private school(s) in order to concentrate: Because I don't communicate on the social level that's expected of everyone in certain environments...
-Someone else said 'however, if you go out more, your chances of meeting someone with similar interests will drastically increase.'... Well, what I'd like to know is where (as in what types of places) is the best places to go when I do go out? I mean, the answer isn't just "anywhere". It has to be somewhere.
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Jan-09-2004 21:45
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Delay Llama
tranceaddict

Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Krungthepmahanak ornamornratanakosinmahinta rayutthayamahadilokphopnop, Thailand
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Where to go?
Anywhere outside of your house. Go to a shopping mall (where they have arcade and stuff), to the city park, to a parking lot... anywhere! It doesn't matter if you don't know anyone who goes to that certain place, you can always meet people there. Even at Wall Mart! Go make a city tour! Go to a bookstore or to the library! Click here so you can find an interesting place in your city! 
Not willing to have a relationship with someone with whom you may break up in the future
Son, if we had the gift of foreseeing how things are gonna work out, we wouldn't be using discussion forums: we would know what would happen. And you won't be wasting your time, you'll be enjoying good company AND learning things you don't seem to know. Experiences are never useless.
Clubs/Raves that play music other than trance
You're saying you're in Philadelphia and there are no places where you can listen to electronic music? Go outside and look for them, there has got to be something. How can you find it? Talk to people in CD stores, someone has to be flyering for a party! And no need to be worried about violence: you can be attacked anywhere, even in your house.
Topics for conversation
I hardly ever talk about clothing, current hit movies, Rap/R&B/Hip-hop, Rock/Pop, school-related, sporting and cars, and I still manage to have a conversation. Try to ask find out what other people like and why they like these things. That's enough topic for a conversation. Ask "how was your day?" or "how is it where you live?". If you say this sort of conversation is boring to you, then you're really not willing to know other people and you're being extremely selfish. It can't be always about you and what you like.
How many girls who like trance have we met?
Do you really think we count!? I know girls who are really into electronic music, but I've got no idea of the percentage.
The Digging stuff
This means you have to look for them ie have a social life.
Also, no offense, but you should take whisker's advice... therapy would be nice. Most people actually need this sort of thing, it's a way to discover more about ourselves 
By the way, unless you change your attitude, this is gonna be my last post in this thread. We're trying to help you but you're ALWAYS seeing problems because we left something out (like, if I tell you to go to a Park you're gonna ask us which park and what you need to do there). Stop being so mathematical and try to elaborate things for yourself, it's for your own good.
And you still need to make a joke 
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Jan-09-2004 22:30
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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!

Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
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Re: Ok, some things got changed around from the original post... Here goes:
| quote: | Originally posted by ali92
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Well, since I've said this to so many girls, it's only fair that I say it to the guys too...
You can't expect the world from other people. If you're unhappy, then you need to work on yourself, not expect someone else to fall into your lap who is and does everything you want her to. I'm often bitter about women and relationships too, but I still know that I need to make an effort, the perfect partner isn't just going to magically fall on my bed from space.
Honestly, it sounds like you want a bloody robot... you seem to be lacking any kind of empathy or understanding of other people, women or men. People aren't your playthings, they aren't computer programs that you can just write specifications for. You really have to accept the fact that you're never going to find another living soul who has the exact same mind as you - learn to deal with it.
Unfortunately, life doesn't come with an instruction booklet.
P.S. do you also have problems with eye contact and/or body language?
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Jan-09-2004 23:02
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ali92
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Fishtown, Philadelphia
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| quote: | Originally posted by Delay Llama
Where to go?
Anywhere outside of your house. Go to a shopping mall (where they have arcade and stuff), to the city park, to a parking lot... anywhere! It doesn't matter if you don't know anyone who goes to that certain place, you can always meet people there. Even at Wall Mart! Go make a city tour! Go to a bookstore or to the library! Click here so you can find an interesting place in your city! 
Not willing to have a relationship with someone with whom you may break up in the future
Son, if we had the gift of foreseeing how things are gonna work out, we wouldn't be using discussion forums: we would know what would happen. And you won't be wasting your time, you'll be enjoying good company AND learning things you don't seem to know. Experiences are never useless.
Clubs/Raves that play music other than trance
You're saying you're in Philadelphia and there are no places where you can listen to electronic music? Go outside and look for them, there has got to be something. How can you find it? Talk to people in CD stores, someone has to be flyering for a party! And no need to be worried about violence: you can be attacked anywhere, even in your house.
Topics for conversation
I hardly ever talk about clothing, current hit movies, Rap/R&B/Hip-hop, Rock/Pop, school-related, sporting and cars, and I still manage to have a conversation. Try to ask find out what other people like and why they like these things. That's enough topic for a conversation. Ask "how was your day?" or "how is it where you live?".
How many girls who like trance have we met?
Do you really think we count!? I know girls who are really into electronic music, but I've got no idea of the percentage.
The Digging stuff
This means you have to look for them ie have a social life.
Also, no offense, but you should take whisker's advice... therapy would be nice. Most people actually need this sort of thing, it's a way to discover more about ourselves 
By the way, unless you change your attitude, this is gonna be my last post in this thread. We're trying to help you but you're ALWAYS seeing problems because we left something out (like, if I tell you to go to a Park you're gonna ask us which park and what you need to do there). Stop being so mathematical and try to elaborate things for yourself, it's for your own good.
And you still need to make a joke |
OK, no problems here, just more for me to elabourate on:
| quote: | | Not willing to have a relationship with someone with whom you may break up in the futureSon, if we had the gift of foreseeing how things are gonna work out, we wouldn't be using discussion forums: we would know what would happen. And you won't be wasting your time, you'll be enjoying good company AND learning things you don't seem to know. Experiences are never useless. | - I should've spelt out what I really meant here. What I was speaking about is "Why do many people 'settle for less' when they can look for someone who would appreciate them more?". I mean, it would do good for both people if they was with someone they really love and aren't in a relationship or marriage for just "convenience". Surely, you do learn from mistakes and bad experiences...
| quote: | | If you say this sort of conversation is boring to you, then you're really not willing to know other people and you're being extremely selfish. It can't be always about you and what you like. | I see nothing wrong with that sort of conversation. I don't want to be around someone where we BOTH don't like each other's company. I mean, it DOES happen. You may have interpreted it wrongly...
| quote: | | you can be attacked anywhere | - True, but depending on where you are, your situation, and wether you was involved directly or indirectly with a conflict, if any, would either increase or decrease the chances of you getting attacked by someone. I never was once involved in any physical conflicts, only because my social life is close to none. I don't just speak to anyone.
| quote: | | This means you have to look for them ie have a social life. | - Well, I should summarise a bit of what I'm involved with right now. I'm currently involved with the "Civil Service Career Workshop" and I'm currently taking classes & tests in attempt of getting employed with the US Government. I'm done the three classes (education phase). Lately, I've been working on ten home assignments (practice exams) and after I'm done them all, I'll be returning the answers to them for checking. If I did successfully, I'll be able to start the "testing phase", which is where I have to schedule three exams to be taken over there. After I pass those, I can begin the final "employment search" phase. I wasn't really given too much details on the last two phases during my classes there in October & November of 2003.
Among other things, I'm looking into applying to Temple University Japan for studying of the Japanese language/culture, as well as getting involved in the photography field. I'd rather study over there because that's the only way I'll learn the language (when you're forced to learn it, you'll learn much quicker), plus technology is abundant there. Photography is a big industry there.
Finally, if everything works out, I'd probably would be able to get into producing electronic music.
So, social life may be out of the question for now, as I have to worry more about studying than just staying outside day after day, as people on here may have thought so far on this thread. Please, don't say "I'm creating problems" again, because I'm not now. I'm just explaing my current situation and what I'd like to do in the future. I believe we all do that from time to time as well, right?
| quote: | Also, no offense, but you should take whisker's advice... therapy would be nice. Most people actually need this sort of thing, it's a way to discover more about ourselves  | - Hmmm... I never thought about this...
| quote: | | By the way, unless you change your attitude, this is gonna be my last post in this thread. We're trying to help you but you're ALWAYS seeing problems because we left something out (like, if I tell you to go to a Park you're gonna ask us which park and what you need to do there). Stop being so mathematical and try to elaborate things for yourself, it's for your own good. | - Maybe my attitude hasn't been shown the way it really is on here. I think it's the very fact that I'm typing up these posts so quickly that people may be interpreting them in an angry way. I'm not angry about my situation or anything. ...and no, I wouldn't ask "which park", as TA is a world-wide community and I don't expect direct answers to local names or anything here. With the case about parties/clubs, I didn't ask for names. I asked for type, etc. Not all clubs have a URL and explain EVERYTHING about what's allowed/disallowed, age minimums, genre(s) of music played, tracklistings, days/hours, etc. Even if the URL had all or even some of such information, it may not be in English, etc. So, you can't make assumptions. I never make assumptions in my life. If I don't know someone, I don't assume that they are a certain type of person, etc. It's good not to assume. About me being "mathematical", I always have been very systematic/mathematical but, it's only because I never was given negative comments for behaving like that. I've always gotten positive remarks for it because not everyone can just say there age, without thinking for a while, down to the minute or second, right when someone asks how old you are, or similar.
| quote: | And you still need to make a joke  | - I don't know many. I do watch the Tonight Show with Jay Leno every weeknight, though. I get some laughs out of that. :-)
I hope I didn't offend anyone here by just replying to someone's posts, quoting piece by piece and elabourating on each piece separately because isn't that the most organised way to do it?
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Jan-10-2004 00:35
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ali92
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Fishtown, Philadelphia
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Re: Re: Ok, some things got changed around from the original post... Here goes:
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Well, since I've said this to so many girls, it's only fair that I say it to the guys too...
You can't expect the world from other people. If you're unhappy, then you need to work on yourself, not expect someone else to fall into your lap who is and does everything you want her to. I'm often bitter about women and relationships too, but I still know that I need to make an effort, the perfect partner isn't just going to magically fall on my bed from space.
Honestly, it sounds like you want a bloody robot... you seem to be lacking any kind of empathy or understanding of other people, women or men. People aren't your playthings, they aren't computer programs that you can just write specifications for. You really have to accept the fact that you're never going to find another living soul who has the exact same mind as you - learn to deal with it.
Unfortunately, life doesn't come with an instruction booklet.
P.S. do you also have problems with eye contact and/or body language? |
All that was said there was very true and I'm very well aware of all of that. Another recent post explained if anyone interpreted my responses wrongly. I don't have much problems with either. By "body language", did you mean interpretation or usage?
Also, it's not like I never have talked to girls before, I've spoken to some before. the ones that seemed nice and that we'd be right for each other were actually taken. They even initiated the first conversation WITH ME! Oftentimes, the only girls who do initiate are the ones who are taken. I never initiate because I'm afraid of making the wrong impression (like I'm looking for sex or similar when I'm not).
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Jan-10-2004 00:45
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Delay Llama
tranceaddict

Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Krungthepmahanak ornamornratanakosinmahinta rayutthayamahadilokphopnop, Thailand
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I guess I was a bit harsh on my last post I'm a bit in a hurry so I'll just summarize from what I remember, not quoting and stuff because you probably know what I'm talking about If not, just tell me and I'll be glad to elaborate 
1) Props for going to the Temple University, that's a very good start. Talk more to people there, make more friends and try to have a more active social life. By the way, girls usually like photography 
2) I know sometimes we're too busy, but we also need some time to rest. In your case, I stronlgy recommend not spending this free time on yourself, that's what I meant.
3) You don't need URL's to go to clubs, just look for phone numbers. They'll give you all the info you need. And making an assumption is not always a bad thing. If it's a rave party, we all can assume there'll be electronic music. Hint: post in a regional forum (I don't know how many local forums TA have) and they'll give you more info on clubs in your city 
4) It's not hard to know who you can talk to. If the person doesn't look friendly, don't. If (s)he seems like a nice person, why not? Don't be afraid to seem you have second intentions, because sometimes it's more in your head than in hers. It's all about your attitude. If you say "Hi, have you got the time?" and start a conversation from this, she'll hardly think you're looking for more. You just can't walk up to girls and say "Hi, are these fake? Can I touch them?" 
5) When I said about the joke, I didn't expect you to say something like "There was an Irishman, a priest and a purple flaming monkey". Just get the context here and try to make fun. For example:
| quote: | Demo version of a (lame) joke
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
Otherwise we'll have to steal aibo. |
Not really, I'm not into doggy-style  |
This could be a start In case you didn't get it, here's aibo:

6) Sometimes it can be good to be mathematical, but not always.
7) Stop thinking that people may not like your company. The more you think of it, the more they won't enjoy it. I guess it's got something to do with attitude, body language, frequencies and body smell...
8) If you don't want to have a relationship right now, I don't understand why you're thinking of it. If that's because you're not good with people, than you should first focus on yourself (as Diginut said) and then you look for the relationship you're looking for
9) I guess Diginut was talking about how you talk to people. Do you look into their eyes, to you shake their hands when you're introduced to them, do you look like you're afraid of being bitten?
10) Diginut, nice text colour 
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Roses are red, violets are blue, in Soviet Russia, poems write YOU!
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Jan-10-2004 01:07
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ali92
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Fishtown, Philadelphia
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| quote: | Originally posted by Delay Llama
I guess I was a bit harsh on my last post I'm a bit in a hurry so I'll just summarize from what I remember, not quoting and stuff because you probably know what I'm talking about If not, just tell me and I'll be glad to elaborate 
1) Props for going to the Temple University, that's a very good start. Talk more to people there, make more friends and try to have a more active social life. By the way, girls usually like photography 
2) I know sometimes we're too busy, but we also need some time to rest. In your case, I stronlgy recommend not spending this free time on yourself, that's what I meant.
3) You don't need URL's to go to clubs, just look for phone numbers. They'll give you all the info you need. And making an assumption is not always a bad thing. If it's a rave party, we all can assume there'll be electronic music. Hint: post in a regional forum (I don't know how many local forums TA have) and they'll give you more info on clubs in your city 
4) It's not hard to know who you can talk to. If the person doesn't look friendly, don't. If (s)he seems like a nice person, why not? Don't be afraid to seem you have second intentions, because sometimes it's more in your head than in hers. It's all about your attitude. If you say "Hi, have you got the time?" and start a conversation from this, she'll hardly think you're looking for more. You just can't walk up to girls and say "Hi, are these fake? Can I touch them?" 
5) When I said about the joke, I didn't expect you to say something like "There was an Irishman, a priest and a purple flaming monkey". Just get the context here and try to make fun. For example:
Not really, I'm not into doggy-style 
This could be a start In case you didn't get it, here's aibo:

6) Sometimes it can be good to be mathematical, but not always.
7) Stop thinking that people may not like your company. The more you think of it, the more they won't enjoy it. I guess it's got something to do with attitude, body language, frequencies and body smell...
8) If you don't want to have a relationship right now, I don't understand why you're thinking of it. If that's because you're not good with people, than you should first focus on yourself (as Diginut said) and then you look for the relationship you're looking for
9) I guess Diginut was talking about how you talk to people. Do you look into their eyes, to you shake their hands when you're introduced to them, do you look like you're afraid of being bitten?
10) Diginut, nice text colour 
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1-3. I'll try all you said there...
4. Your example about the time won't work, as I always have the time on my Casio yyyy-MM-dd 24 h G-SHOCK watch. I know the general idea of you are speaking about, though. Ask basic questions about things that pop up here & there. Like about weather, work difficulty/easiness, etc.
5. I knew what an AIBO was before it was revealed in the US. I go to Japanese electronic company's Web sites a whole lot...
6. True...
7. I know my company is liked, indeed, because usually if I'm in a small crowd of people, I'm usually the reason why they DON'T walk away or speak negatively.
8. I want to be in a relationship but, I'm not ready for sexual activity yet. Did I point that out or not? If not, point where you may have interpreted wrongly...
9. Yes, I do frendly guestures when I speak to people and bow/handshake when I first meet people. I usually have a very friend attitude when I'm anywhere outside home. I show no negativity when I'm away from home, in a different environment...
I loved how you numbered this! I tend to work exactly like that, as you may tell from some of my previous posts... Please elabourate more, if you wish... Even though you don't have to...
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