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Re: Take that Fundies!!!!!!!!1111111
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSZ
You do have a prejudice against Americans though, so you should just admit that. |
Actually, I take offence at that. Just because I made an observation that Americans and sometimes UKTAs seem to use gay as an insult in Chillout (and sometimes MD) does not mean I am prejudiced against Americans. I try and judge people by their actions, not by where they come from. I was merely observing that it might be an issue in the US, simply because I seem to see Americans using it as an insult.
Dictionary.com definition of prejudice:
- An adverse judgement or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
- A preconceived preference or idea.
I don't have a preconceived prejudice against Americans. Some of the people I admire most on TA are Americans. I have a huge amount of respect for Occrider, Arbiter & MisterOpus, all of which is simply due to their actions on this forum. I did not form an opinion on them before I read what they had to say, and I don't think I have done so with anyone else. If I have a prejudice against someone, it's got to be the Kiwis. Damned sheep lovers. 
| quote: | Originally posted by Heinz
thats true that most of us use gay as an insult. because basically, being gay is revolting to most people. in my school, i cant even count how many times someone says "fag" "gay" "homo(sexual)" lezbian cock sucker...etc.........gay marraiges are a disgrace to the morality of marraige between a man and a woman. that is is where marraige came from. god ordaned it with adam and eve.
now, i know most of you are secularists and atheist, and wont believe what i just said, so, why dont people instead not use marraige. because marriage came from religion. none of u like religion, but yet, many of u are strongly for gays getting "married". if religion is so bad, dont get married, invent your own union of your love. |
No, 'most of us' (Lovely how you presume to speak for the majority of the world's population, isn't it?) use gay as an insult because of intolerance and stupidity.
You need to recognise the difference between a secular/civil marriage and a religious one. Religion cannot be a factor when it comes to deciding who should be allowed to marry in a secular ceremony. I understand why you may be against gays marrying in Christian ceremonies (Assuming you are a Christian of course), but how do you justify being against civil marriages for gays?
| quote: | Originally posted by imokruok
Gays are not discriminated against. They are free to marry a member of the opposite sex just like everybody else. |
You failed to mention one tiny thing, although it's of no consequence really. They aren't attracted to the opposite sex, so maybe, just maybe, they won't want to marry them? Nah...
What is the first thought that comes into your head when you visualize having sex with someone of the same sex? No doubt it repulses you. That's exactly how a gay person is likely to feel when visualizing sex with a member of the opposite sex. Now, does gay marriage affect you in any way? Does it harm society in any way? Do gays getting married harm each other? Can gays consent to a relationship?
Why are you against gay marriage, or civil unions?
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