whatever.

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they talk aramean in our church and i don't understand shit... so never been intrested in religion.

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are there no islamic people here?

some interesting diversity, ranging from "blue hedgehogs" to "Hakuna Matata" to "whatever" to "jedism".

Christian...non denomination...amen!

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Originally posted by occrider Kind of. Scientifically I'm an aethesit. Spirtually, I'm a deist/catholic. I do believe that we know virtually nothing of God, but I do believe in some basic principles that he exists, is good, just, etc. The bible attempts to capture his interaction with the world but I firmly believe the bible is 90% crap. However, I don't discount the fact that God may have some kind of interaction with the world. Ultimately my faith is logically unjustifiable. However, that's why it is called faith ...

/me is confused

Nah, I sort of see where you're coming from. I'm also chuffed that I can call you illogical. I've always wanted to do that...

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out of curiosity, why would you call yourself catholic if you dont believe in the Bible hehe. God isnt just a Catholic christian thing, and the main pointers of the Catholics are the belief in venial and mortal sins, purgatory, priestly messengers of God, the Virgin Mary and the immaculate conception, and so forth.

In other words, if it was Illegal to be a Catholic, would there be a case against you?

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Originally posted by Orbax out of curiosity, why would you call yourself catholic if you dont believe in the Bible hehe. God isnt just a Catholic christian thing, and the main pointers of the Catholics are the belief in venial and mortal sins, purgatory, priestly messengers of God, the Virgin Mary and the immaculate conception, and so forth. In other words, if it was Illegal to be a Catholic, would there be a case against you?

Well, I guess for a lack of a better understanding, I considered myself catholic since I was raised catholic. But I suppose, if anything I'm some kind of aetheist sect of christianity believing only in god, jesus, and a few portions of the bible as a historical text.

Oh ... and it's very possible that if I was born unto an aetheist family that I would not be christian at all. I dunno, maybe all those sunday school classes brainwashed me ... it's difficult to reconcile my rationality in this matter. Therefore I keep my personal faith and reason separate

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youre weird *pokes the strange man*

Agnostic
I think

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Originally posted by beema Agnostic I think

Dictionary.com:

1. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
2. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.

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Originally posted by arctic Dictionary.com: 1. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. 2. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.

Sounds about right, kind of like a borderline Atheist?

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Originally posted by beema Sounds about right, kind of like a borderline Atheist?

Sort of. Not really though, although the two are closely related. There are actually two common atheistic positions. One is strong atheism, which asserts that god cannot and does not exist, full stop. That is generally referred to as strong atheism (From memory Diginut is a strong atheist, he might be able to expand on this if you've got any queries). Then there's 'weak' atheism (which is what I subscribe to), which is essentially a disbelief in the existence of god. It isn't ruling it out, but the weak atheist asserts that the burden of proof is on the theist (as does strong atheism, mind you), and until some evidence for the existence of god is presented or discovered, then one must assume that god does not exist, just as one assumes that invisible flying elephants don't exist.

An agnostic might believe that it is impossible to know either way, therefore bringing them into direct conflict with the strong atheist position, or they may simply consider the question unimportant. Personally, I think that the first position is far more reasonable than the second , as I think that the existence of god is a fundamentally important issue that everyone should confront/consider eventually.

The chap in my avatar (Bertrand Russell) was an agnostic philosopher & mathematician, and is generally considered to be one of the greatest thinkers ever to have lived, so you're in good company.

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