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Cyrus King
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
GG guys, you must have read my mind through the internet.

I never believed the WMD thing. I have always thought that someone needs to go clean up the Middle East. So it isnt me buying into propaganda. I dont watch TV. I just read stuff from around the world.

You said that the Iraquis should have done it? I already covered that. You think funding could ever get that hopeless mob into a fighting force that can take over the most militarized nation on earth? You think those some people who come out of their holes screaming when a loudspeaker says that they have no nuts are gonna be the fighting force you need?

Hell no.

Iraqis werent gonna do shit. Even if we could somehow persuade a faction of their military to splinter, it would be a clusterfuck and you know it. Those people cant fight worth crap.

And I am AlLLLLLLlLL for America going after every shitty little country. North Korea, the rest of the Middle East, and pretty much all of Africa too.

I think the UN needs to clean up Africa more than its the USs job, but the point is this:

Its about fuc$ing time for people to realize that the horrible conditions out there CAN BE CHANGED. No more of this "but what can I do, im just one man" crap. You can join the army, get sent off to another country, and change it.

The fact that it took until 2004 for somene to get off their ass and depose Sadam is ridiculous. The fact that we have pussies out there backing away from what I see as their obligation to help clean up the world saying that Iraq should not have been bothered...God help us.

If Hitler happened again today,Id be very afraid to what the rest of the world's reaction to him would be.

I think the UN is foolish for not utilizing a nation that can walk in and conquer a country in 2 weeks. I think it is foolish for not making a group that could do it in 1 week, and then, using a coalition force, bring about the needed changes under martial law.

But thats not gonna happen is it? Because the UN does nothing. They are the same fun dudes who let Rwanda happen because it "wasnt genocide" and it makes me sick that the US didnt walk in, place a boot on their neck, and stick a shottie to the back of their head and tell them to stop killing people with machetes. The UN withdrew from a school and hundreds of women and children were beaten to death, shot, and hacked with machetes.

When do we stop being bystanders, and starting being activists? How much shit needs to happen? We had to get 3000 people killed. What will it take for you guys to change YOUR minds?

RE: Americans being the best occupiers.

You are projecting your own idiotic logic onto me when you say that YOU AS AN AMERICAN WANT TO BE CAPTURED BY AMERICANS *bouts of insane giggling because youre so clever*

No, moron, Americans treat their captives top notch. The Chinese will just torture your ass, the French will lock you away in some dank hell hole for eternity, and Middle Easterns will just kill you.

Because of the prominence of the US we are held to the highest level. If we did something shitty to our prisoners, the world would be up in arms, bitching. So there are two reasons why its better to be under US occupation. Next time pinch your vagina lips closed before you let them going flapping in the wind again.


are you fuckin serious???? America is the best occupier????

This is so sad. You are trying to justify OCCUPATION by comparing it to th occupation of other nations on different peoples.

IN case you havent figured it out,, OCCUPATION itself is wrong.

Your idiotic government will make an iraq that will be feuding for many many many years. I wouldnt be surprised if an islamic fundentalist gets into power.

Your all for attacking "shitty little" nation? You think war is the right answer for everything?
You constantly proclaim the democratic and free nature of america, yet FORCE a democracy on a people who have no concept of it.

And I love it how you generalise the nature of the US's actions as being the most humane. You fail to recognize how murderous your nation actually was and is still today.


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Cyrus King
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quote:
Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
Its ironic however borron that you don't have any pics of any of the detainees with a bullet hole in the back of their head and could never find such a pic, ask yourself why.

Iraq itself is being DETAINED.. every civilian death is is the result of BUsh and his buddie's money loving crusade. I can show you pics of occupied civilians shot in the head by soldiers


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Cyrus King
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Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
How exactly is the US seeding hatred? What exactly are these bad things Americans are doing that is worth terrorism?


Explaining this to you would crash Swamper's server.


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Orbax
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Cyrus youre right. Lets all just hold hands and light some fucking candles. Thatll solve the worlds problems.

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Cyrus King
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Originally posted by Orbax
Cyrus youre right. Lets all just hold hands and light some fucking candles. Thatll solve the worlds problems.


Chill-out-room bullshit responses like that are typical from its main posters.

And another thing, most of the responses i have read from the americans on this forum... espescially the ones that popped out of no where recently, seem to indirect and directly imply that arabs are evil and that murder is inherent in their blood. Looks like those christian fanatics and zionists that seem to control your government are doing well indoctrinating your media obssesed society.


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Orbax
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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Chill-out-room bullshit responses like that are typical from its main posters.


Because that makes sense.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
And another thing, most of the responses i have read from the americans on this forum... espescially the ones that popped out of no where recently, seem to indirect and directly imply that arabs are evil and that murder is inherent in their blood.



Inherent only after they have been brainwashed by an ultra-violent, extremist at a very young age. Before that they still have hope.

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Cyrus King
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Inherent only after they have been brainwashed by an ultra-violent, extremist at a very young age. Before that they still have hope.


Who is brainwashing them to murder indiscriminantly?


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NYCTrancefan
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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Iraq itself is being DETAINED.. every civilian death is is the result of BUsh and his buddie's money loving crusade. I can show you pics of occupied civilians shot in the head by soldiers


You fail to realize that my commentary in regards to this subject matter was limited to the detentions at Guantanamo Bay, as you know full well from being a regular on this forum I in know way support the presence of American troops in Iraq under the reasons that George W. Bush gave for that conflict. My comment was simply referencing the commentary of Borron on the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, nothing more, nothing less. If you want to use that rationale then I can show you bombed out trains in Madrid with body parts, pics of dead people who leapt from the World Trade Center as well, and many, many more grizzly acts perpetrated by so called "jihad" but does that justify the Iraq conflict. I know fully better than that, it clearly does NOT.


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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Who is brainwashing them to murder indiscriminantly?


Explaining this to you would crash Swamper's server.

Sound familiar


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Izzy
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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King

IN case you havent figured it out,, OCCUPATION itself is wrong.


says who?
i certinally dont believe so... the american occupation of post WW2 germany and japan greatly improved and aided their societies.

as long as the occupation is there to "nation build" a future independent, self-reliant, democractic country that upholds the basic human rights then by golly i'm all for it


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Cyrus King
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quote:
Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
You fail to realize that my commentary in regards to this subject matter was limited to the detentions at Guantanamo Bay, as you know full well from being a regular on this forum I in know way support the presence of American troops in Iraq under the reasons that George W. Bush gave for that conflict. My comment was simply referencing the commentary of Borron on the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, nothing more, nothing less. If you want to use that rationale then I can show you bombed out trains in Madrid with body parts, pics of dead people who leapt from the World Trade Center as well, and many, many more grizzly acts perpetrated by so called "jihad" but does that justify the Iraq conflict. I know fully better than that, it clearly does NOT.


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