Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Oakville/Chatham, Canada
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Do you really want Canada to be full of money grabbing workaholics
Precisely whats wrong with having a strong work ethic?
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and you want Canada not to have any sort of culture?
Ok, so hold on. If we cut funding to artists, every single iota of culture in Canada is just going to evaporate? No... I think what he's talking about is not handing out art funding for every single self proclaimed artist out there. Theoretically I could go home right now, smear random crap on a page and call it "art", do I deserve a grant?
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You take away the opportunity of Canadians to create art, you take away what a country is. Canada is very underdeveloped in many aspects of culture.
And yet our cultural richness and diversity is praised throughout the international community...
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And my view point about the homeless still stands. If you don't do anything, then it is not going to go away.
I don't think he's asking us to ignore them; I think he's asking for us to start from scratch and approach it with newer, more efficient programs.
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May-18-2004 17:44
StereoPrincess
sassy one-piece
Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI
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Originally posted by Nephilim_X
And yet our cultural richness and diversity is praised throughout the international community...
you have been greatly mislead. Our art and music and literature is nowhere near levels of other countries. And I'm not talking USA here but legitimate art communities.
May-18-2004 17:52
Nephilim_X
tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Oakville/Chatham, Canada
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
you have been greatly mislead. Our art and music and literature is nowhere near levels of other countries. And I'm not talking USA here but legitimate art communities.
I'm not saying our art/music/literature/film output is anywhere near the level of another nations. I'm saying that the fact that we're so damned diverse is praised.
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May-18-2004 17:54
starsearcher
DigitalPunk on Flight643
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
you have been greatly mislead. Our art and music and literature is nowhere near levels of other countries. And I'm not talking USA here but legitimate art communities.
I totally agree...all this praising and celebration of culture is a bunch of BS...all you need to do is to travel to other countries, primarily in Europe and see how far behind we really are.
Originally posted by Nephilim_X
I'm not saying our art/music/literature/film output is anywhere near the level of another nations. I'm saying that the fact that we're so damned diverse is praised.
This brings us back to the discussion of are we actually diverse or culturaly devidied...
Besides if you ask me, it seems like we are praising ourselves about that and noone else really cares.
Kind of like...you do something, and then you keep praising yourself for it...
Originally posted by Nephilim_X
Precisely whats wrong with having a strong work ethic?
And what's wrong with not thinking about money all the time and actually thinking on how to help make the world better?
May-18-2004 17:59
Nephilim_X
tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Oakville/Chatham, Canada
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Originally posted by starsearcher
I totally agree...all this praising and celebration of culture is a bunch of BS...all you need to do is to travel to other countries, primarily in Europe and see how far behind we really are.
Yeah but most European countries have several centuries of development behind them which took place prior to the world "opening up" culturally (that is, before cultures began to intermingle freely and openly). Canada meanwhile ended up becoming a cultural mosiac.
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May-18-2004 18:01
Nephilim_X
tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Oakville/Chatham, Canada
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
And what's wrong with not thinking about money all the time and actually thinking on how to help make the world better?
Nothing at all is wrong with not being obsessed with money, but you didn't answer my question as to why a strong work ethic is bad. Besides some of us with strong work ethics aren't "money grubbers", we're just trying to make our way in life and understand that some effort is needed to do that.
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May-18-2004 18:03
StereoPrincess
sassy one-piece
Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI
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Originally posted by Nephilim_X
Yeah but most European countries have several centuries of development behind them which took place prior to the world "opening up" culturally (that is, before cultures began to intermingle freely and openly). Canada meanwhile ended up becoming a cultural mosiac.
Canada has a very diverse history from which culture is could stem from but it seems not there are too many people here that think of only money to develop them.
You are just repeating what the government is telling you. To anyone else in the world, Canada is Canada. No one gives a shit how many different "cultures" are here. No one else even knows.
May-18-2004 18:03
starsearcher
DigitalPunk on Flight643
Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
And what's wrong with not thinking about money all the time and actually thinking on how to help make the world better?
I think the problem with that statement is the false idea that you can actually, and in a smiple way "make the world a better place". And the problem is that it's really not that simple and it's not realistic either...
It's more often than not seems like "the strongest man survives" and there's a lot of cut throat competition -- you want success you gotta work. Bottom line is that everyone wants something DIFFERENT and you can't keep blaming one or the other
Originally posted by Nephilim_X
Nothing at all is wrong with not being obsessed with money, but you didn't answer my question as to why a strong work ethic is bad. Besides some of us with strong work ethics aren't "money grubbers", we're just trying to make our way in life and understand that some effort is needed to do that.
you changed the definition of what i said to strong work ethic not i. obviously there is a difference between money grubbing and strong work ethic. i was talking about one and you changed it to something else so i assumed we were talking about the same thing. sorry, if i didn't follow.
May-18-2004 18:06
StereoPrincess
sassy one-piece
Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI
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Originally posted by starsearcher
I think the problem with that statement is the false idea that you can actually, and in a smiple way "make the world a better place". And the problem is that it's really not that simple and it's not realistic either...
It's more often than not seems like "the strongest man survives" and there's a lot of cut throat competition -- you want success you gotta work. Bottom line is that everyone wants something DIFFERENT and you can't keep blaming one or the other
but is it not simple to follow some rules as to how you live your life? i think that with my education and my future plans i will make the world a better place. even if it is on a small scale.