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Dj Smitty20
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quote:
Originally posted by Nautilus
England got owned!

Merci Zizou, vive la France !

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you obviously don't know the game well if you think England got "owned". Have you ever played it or watched football in the US? oh wait...they call it soccer down there.


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sleepydragon
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luck because Heskey was stupid enough to make an aggressive challenge from behind. You got a call from the ref, the French players didn't break through the English defence. As I said, as much as it pains me, the English players COLLAPSED and lost the game for themselves.


whys that lucky? heskey gave away a free kick and zidane superbly finished it i dont call that luck i call it stupidity on heskeys behalf

Old Post Jun-16-2004 19:01  England
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The keeper and wall setup for Zidane's freekick was terible, the free kick was hardly top corner, it was nearer the centre of the goal. As Schmeichel analysed afterwards, in those situations you're supposed to trust your wall to cover one half of the goal and you the keeper cover the other. If he puts it over your wall to your opposite post there's nothing you can do about that, it's the chance you take. James arranged it this way, but then before the kick drifted back over into the very centre of his goal leaving the whole right side exposed. Zidane saw a big gap in the wall, he whipped in a quick shot and it was 1-1.



You can see the severe gap in the wall here, and also look at the keeper's positioning behind, Zidane had half an empty goal to aim at it was awful defending of a free-kick.

As for Heskey's challenge, we've come to expect this sort of thing from him. Everybody was holding their breath when he came on just waiting for a mistake to happen, he's such an error prone player. I can't believe Heskey is in the England squad while the likes of Beattie, Smith and Ameobi aren't.

Old Post Jun-16-2004 23:57  England
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Beattie, Smith or Ameobie would be much better replacements.

Old Post Jun-17-2004 02:26  Australia
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TiestoFanMatt
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Anyway he's been chosen, so 2 possibilities:
- you don't have any best player than this donkey at this place...
- your coach is an idiot.

The fact is that most of the posts I've read here or there are complaints and tries to find any excuse to explain this or that. We dominated all the match, we had a lot of problems with your excellent compact defence which blocked our numerous attacks, you scored a nice goal and succeeded in keeping the result for 90mn. The referee has nothing to do in Zidane's free kick, as Silvestre didn't help during the action, and as his expulsion wouldn't have changed anything to the motivation of our attacks. And our penalty was as fair as Beckham's one.

We have been able to keep a strong mind during all the game, and a bit of luck, which is a component of most sports. So I understand you're disappointed, but you should be fair play and not try to kick our team like most of you do. Take example on guys like Ian^ or Coup who have been perfectly fair-play after the results, despite their disappointment. And don't forget: that's just football, that doesn't deserve personal insults.


I think if you ask england fans, nearly all of them would say that Heskey should not be in the squad. Liverpool finnally got rid of him to Birmingham, and hopefully now he will not get in the team because he plays for a less fasionable club. Does that mean our manager has lost it? Yes, when it comes to Heskey and allot of his decisions, we do think he's lost it.

It's not being a sour loser, i just gave, like many fans, my perspective on the game, that england should have won. Oh well, as england fans, we never really get any luck.

Oh, and silvestre, how can you say his sending off would not have affected the game. Do you watch football. If your defender has been sentoff, the game is different. You would make a sub for starters as he is a defender, ud change formation. I can't believe just because he never touched the ball leading up to the free kick you say that it didnt matter if he got sent off or not. Oh well, frenchies

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i can't believe this thread is still open ...damn this thread gotta be closed

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I'm sorry to say, but the French team is dirty.





But I'm gloating because Italy will lose now.


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^^^^^^^^^^

I meant NOT gloating.


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