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Nico: No I dont start fights. Unless a guy is slapping a girl or something I usually just hang out. Although I feel that abusing a woman in public (or private but especially public) is saying "someone kick my ass, PLEASE" Other than that im a pretty mellow dude.
Phalpax: Sparring helps a LOT. My *only* problem with it is like if your sparring against people who are in karate, all youre doing is learning how to fight someone who knows karate.
I think to be a more well-rounded fighter you have to (duh  ) take many different styles. My boxing got better after I fenced. Because its such a mental game out there you learn patterns and how to break them SO much faster fencing and it translates rapidly into using your jab as a pattern machine.
Force = Mass X Acceleration. Its simple. Big people who have trained on a speed bag or a body bag for snap specifically are going to kick ass. Thats why heavy weight and super heavy weight (and all divisions) exist. 20lbs will FUCK YOU UP. The division has to be so small because each person is training for snap to the max. So theyll by definition have much more force.
Weight lifters only train for pushing. Rather slow pushing at that. I have boxed and fought multiple football players and heavy weight lifters and won by such ridiculous margins (usually unscathed). My friend took some asshole football player out of a video store cuz the dude was being an ass. 5 of his buddies came out too to watch. What happened next was an asswhooping of biblical proportions. He didnt even get 1 punch in. Admittedly my friend is one of the scariest boxers ive ever known (used to go through bags every couple of weeks, like, he needed new ones, he broke them).
Martial arts provides a weak person with a very unreal perception of power. They put the huge ripped people in the same class with a 110 lb woman. Then every does the technique to eachother and it works! Most of the sparring ive done has been kind of halfassed, and I always got in trouble for actually producing pain.
Its this little club where reality doesnt matter.
Now, given, there are people (sounds like youre one of them) who have the physical constitution and the mental perception to be able to utilize the techniques effectively WHILE producing a lot of force thus pain. My sensei in Nihon Goshin Aiki-Jujitsu (AKA the school of pain!) had been doing it for 30 years, was 5 foot 2 130 lbs and I wouldnt NEVER EVEN THINK OF ATTACKING HIM. He was insane! he had stories where he had beat the shit out of dudes with knives. He was one of like 5 people in the US at his level. He had to get a Sensei from Japan to come over to get his next degree.
I asked him what do you do against boxers like my brother and I. He told us that later on we will learn strikes and kicks and thats all you can do. The wrist bends and stuff wont work and its impossible to "deflect" a hook or an uppercut. It was the fact that we knew, and everyone else knew, that the only people in the room with more fighting experience and meaner skills were the sensei and the assistant teacher.
Problem is it took them THIRTY YEARS to reach that point!!
Most of your fights happen in your early teens through early 30s. thats a 15 year span of which youll be an effective martial artist (against people who know how to fight) for only about 5 years (maybe!). If you do a combination of punching bag and submission wrestling you can be insane in less than a year. Never AS insane as the other dudes, but you top out so fast it seems like it sometimes.
the age old debate of boxer vs martial artist...they did that. the MA jabbed a thumb in the boxers eye and ended the fight. I guess it depends on what kind of fights gonna happen. Be prepared for everything, realize most fights will end up in wrestling in about 5 seconds and you better be able to 1) wrestle and 2) punch from close range. WHerever you learn how to do that, I dont care, but thats fighting. There are very few fight ending punches in fights.
If you dont knock them out adrenaline will get them going and fighting really really fast. They wont feel pain, they wont realize theyre bleeding. Fights are brutal. I dont like it. But I do like being able to end them as quickly and painlessly as possible (for me at least).
Point: Fighting is a combination of acquired skill, actual application, and mental fortitude. Anyone who has been in a fight will see changes in their style. Theyll stop using certain moves or blocking poses because they simply dont work. You will narrow your band of operable moves and techniques to a very effective routine pretty quick. In the end, it pretty much comes down to punching and wrestling, sometimes a few kicks while they are on the ground. Martial arts is fun and stuff, and ive used arm bars and shoulder locks on a few people who rushed me, thus putting their nose in the dirt, and it was good. Easy way to stop a fight. As soon as that doesnt work you gotta know what youre doin.
I think that covers everything
Last edited by Orbax on Jun-22-2004 at 16:59
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