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Originally posted by Orko and if you believe that Em is the cause of kids being exposed to violence, get real. What cartoons did you watch as a kid? every one of them has violence in it. Every cartoon has a conflict, which is usually resolved with some sort of battle/violence. Yes its fantasy, and therefore we know its not real, but so is his music, Eminem always states that in his interviews. he says stuff just to get a rise out of people. Think outside the box buddy, and stop listening to the media.

i am not only accusing eminem, but also other sources that promote violence. and when i was a kid, i didnt care wat kind of violence i was exposed to, because i knew wat was right and wrong, so i could make my own decisons. even in elementry/high skool, whenevr there were fights i didnt join the crowd who cheered "fight fight fight", i just walked away. so therefore i dont get exposed to anything that i think is wrong.

even with the warning signs on the albums, it has no effect on children, they get to listen to it anyways. so not only eminem, but also other sources that expose violence etc. to children, must be taken away from them. most parents dont know what their children do behind their backs, which is another problem. but anyways thats my opinion on eminem, rap, and other sources liek such.

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Originally posted by djshan link no the work

sorry..try this..kind of an amusing read
http://www.eurweb.com/articles/head...82908112004.cfm

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Originally posted by DigitalMP Not to take any credit from Deep Dish, but PD's vocals made that track what it is.

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Originally posted by Orko ^^^ keep the argument consistant. DRE has been regarded as a legend, not cause of his lyrics, but because of his production! He helped to make NWA, snoop and west coast. Diddy helped to do the same with the East coast of rappers. good production is an important to rap. i dont think anybody on this board is defending his lyrics. lets face it they stink! and for the longest time he didn even write them. but he did help to establish a lot of talent with his productions. thats why i say he should be respected. definalty not cause of his rapping. btw...isnt an artist someone who expresses emotion/feeling through something they made which can be experienced by one of the 5 senses?

fair enough...take Dre off my list then

my argument stands...P Diddy is not a "legend"...he's a smart and popular businessman who runs a big company. There are lots of producers out there who have done 10 times as much work, worked with much bigger names than anyone P Diddy has worked with...but they don't own clothing lines and they didn't sleep with J-Lo, so they remain more anonymous..."popularity" doesn't equal "legend" is all I'm saying.

Whenever the pioneers of the genre are discussed, Dre will always be mentioned. P Diddy? I dunno about that. Outside of Biggy (who was great), who has he produced that can be considered terribly "influential" to the rap and hip hop scenes? Faith Evans and Craig Mack are talented and all that...but they don't hold a candle to those with whom Dre has worked...NWA, Snoop, Eminem, Warren G.

just my opinion of course...

Europe is not the EDM haven everyone thinks it is. Look at the love parade 99 it was a million and a half.. now look at it. Look at all the magazines in europe that have folded. I have studied here in south america and met dozens and dozens of europeans and while they might have been a little more open minded, with the exception of a couple who had heard of paul van dyk (and disliked him) none of them had any idea about dance music. Its more popular, but trust me it is still underground. Rap is far, far more popular than house in europe. The rave scene used to be a platform for rebelious kids.. now the only people who listen to it are computer nerds sitting in their parents basements who have nothing better to do than argue.. the only people who have time to actually find the shit. (only difference is I sit in my own basement). House music isnt cool anywhere. You are not cool anywhere in this world anymore if you listen to electronic music. You are a looser

im soo glad that mofo got booed off stage. i hate hate hate p didy. he milked the rap industry for what its worth now he's gona try and do the same for EDM.....i hope he crashes and burns before he fucks up our music.

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Originally posted by Noree im soo glad that mofo got booed off stage. i hate hate hate p didy. he milked the rap industry for what its worth now he's gona try and do the same for EDM.....i hope he crashes and burns before he fucks up our music.

also watch out for:

PUNJABI MC

too dangerous. fuked up the hip hop scene already.

who the hell is that guy? never heard of him.

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Originally posted by Noree who the hell is that guy? never heard of him.

he is from U.K. he started his djing career by making dance/drum and bass remixes with indian music. now he and "JAY Z" mix hip hop and indian beats together. i just hope he doesnt start trance with indian beats.

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Originally posted by discojoe You are not cool anywhere in this world anymore if you listen to electronic music. You are a looser

take a bus down to santiago or make your way across the andes to buenos aires and the beaches there and then tell me that same sentence.

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Originally posted by djshan i just hope he doesnt start trance with indian beats.

I hope so too

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Originally posted by DigitalMP PD is quite the artist, and EVERY FUCKING ONE of you rocked your face off to Let's Get Ill at least once, but go ahead, hate all you want now.

I've always hated that tune ... extremely ghey.