the people sticking up for tiesto, you always suffer from having one major flaw in your arguments - and that is that he IS actually really shit. You'll grow out of him i suppose. I dont think there is such a thing as a tiesto fan in their late 20's...

You might not realise, but the points that youre coming out with make you look really ignorant. Ignorance is bliss though isnt it?

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I don't want to enter into this argument cos I don't really have the knowledge, but out of curiousity, Laushinameee - what music do you actually like, cos I see you bashing more often than saying something good........

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Originally posted by Coffee Hi all.. this is my first post.. ive been reading this board for a few days now and I have came across alot of tiesto bashing.. and I will just like to give my 2 cents.. first the people who are saying that tiesto cant mix and doesnt deserve his #1 ranking. well I have something to say about that, keep reading.. second.. the people who say he plays cheese.. ok I wont object to that.. yes he does play cheese from time to time.. BUT do you know why?? and third.. people who say tiesto is not even a real good DJ.. and his track selection has been off when some people have attended his live gigs.. well I am going to try and defend these negative remarks about him.. first of all,, Tiesto is a Dj who is in extreme demand.. he probably plays over 100 shows a year and every show cant be as good as the last or beter than them all.. alot of those days is like the title another day at the office.. so he is not going to rip it up.. he is only human.. but he still puts in a show for the majority.. just there will always be some people out there in the crowd who have heard better and its not up to standard.. his track selection.. well ok.. yes, he is number 1 again.. and he is probably alittle arrogant about it.. just as oakie was.. so he doesnt feel like he has to perform so much now.. kinda lost the hunger.. but he still turns out a professional set.. number one doesnt mean every show and track has to be EPIC.. he plays cheese ok I cant say much about this except.. people love it! hahahaha its true.. look at the rankings.. I know I know..but the stats speak for it self.. so play what sells.. of course for many not listening to cheese or commercial hits kinda means you are real hardcore.. not a lollipop novice like so many others.. so we talk about non commercial tracks and less cheese tracks which you wont hear on some cheesy remix cd... but that doesnt mean he is a bad Dj.. becuase the fact is.. tiesto is number one becuase he is THAT GOOD! he might be abit of a sell out now.. but most of the top djs do sell out as do all stars... hip hop etc.... they turn commercial and start to play radio hits and get sloppy.. BUT!! the fact is.. if tiesto wanted to HE could do a set that would blow all the djs away and have us all dancing like freaks and then at the end of it we will be saying OH MY GOD!! please someone pick up my jaw it just hit the floor.. if he wanted too.. becuase he is that good! he has the talent and the skills.., its just that he is not really using them so often on the decks for the likes of us trance junkies he spends lot of time in the studio making the commercial cheese that will go number 1 all over europe and make him millions.. but hey.., thats no reason to be dissing him.. the guy can mix.. and we all know this.. anyway thanks for listening.. thats all I have to say about tiesto.. I think the guy is great.. of course I dont listening to him often but I think he needed some defence.. too much bashing.. IF tiesto came to my city I would go see him.. I guess most of you all would too.. maybe alot of you are angry that he is not doing what he is capable of doing.. or maybe a lot of you just do think he is garbage haahha to each there own huh.. well anyway..

You've done a really poor job of 'defending' him here. Instead of providing evidence against those negative points you outlined in the beginning of your post, you've instead made excuses for why it's acceptable for Tiesto to get away with them. The fact is, Tiesto is technically a shit DJ. This is not an opinion. However, this is obviously not important to a considerable amount of people in the edm scene; as long as the tunes are being pumped out, it apparently doesn't matter how they are pieced together, or what order they are put in.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Tiesto is WITH OUT A DOUBT a good all around DJ. He get's the crowds going and makes everyone have a good time...that is the unwritten definition of a good DJ.

yeh but look at the crowd he has in front of him my granny could go on the decks, play a load of trance classics and become the next superstar. He just happened to be in the right place at the right time for this to happen. It doesnt take any sort of special skill or any ability.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter I don't want to enter into this argument cos I don't really have the knowledge, but out of curiousity, Laushinameee - what music do you actually like, cos I see you bashing more often than saying something good........

oh that old chestnut... you always bash tiesto and armin style shit trance therefore you mustnt actually like any music please.

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After cutting through the vat of ignorance, redundance, and "LOL dat's all i gotsta say's", I come to this:

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Comparing Tiesto to Qbert is like saying the Rolling Stones are a better group then Megadeath. They are different genres entirely. Again you make no sense.

I'm not talking about the music they play, but rather their skills as Disk Jockeys. How well they utilize the 1200's. Can you process that through your thick skull?

They play different music, but it's debatable as to whether Chris Poland plays the guitar more proficiently than Keith Richards. Same concept here.

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i dont see what a tiesto fan is doing saying 'LOL' to Surgeon, Henry Chow and Heiko Laux ... what exactly is funny about those djs? I dont get the joke.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee oh that old chestnut... you always bash tiesto and armin style shit trance therefore you mustnt actually like any music please.

Thats NOT what I said. I said I didn't want to enter into this argument and it doesn't really pertain to this argument (well maybe a little), and its not only the Armin/Tiesto style trance that I see you knocking - cos thats not 100% my style either, and I am often reading other stuff

So please, answer the question. If you don't want to do it in this topic (whether you feel it may open you up to criticism or what), pm me the answer, but in future it will help me understand where you are coming from......

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Thats NOT what I said. I said I didn't want to enter into this argument, and its not only the Armin/Tiesto style trance that I see you knocking - cos thats not 100% my style either, and I am often reading other stuff So please, answer the question. If you don't want to do it in this topic (whether you feel it may open you up to criticism or what), pm me the answer, but in future it will help me understand where you are coming from......

do you want a list of tracks, a list of djs, or a vague description of genres that i will just make up or a combination of all three?

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Originally posted by Laushinameee yeh but look at the crowd he has in front of him my granny could go on the decks, play a load of trance classics and become the next superstar. He just happened to be in the right place at the right time for this to happen. It doesnt take any sort of special skill or any ability.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee do you want a list of tracks, a list of djs, or a vague description of genres that i will just make up or a combination of all three?

Just sorta vague genres, with djs to illustrate exactly what you're talking about.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Just sorta vague genres, with djs to illustrate exactly what you're talking about.

electronic music as played by Paul van Dyk from time to time, WestBam, Moguai, Lexy & K Paul, Miss Kittin, Timo Maas and so on...

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