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Originally posted by kid nyce I still believe RJ and Beltran are making it into pin stripes and the move by vasquez is simply retarded let alone the fear of giving up the baseclearer in the fall classic still must haunt him. he's obviously making this move out of greed which i'm sure stein isn't too happy about. as reported in the post he is on vacation with his newborn and to be honest, like most MLB players, wouldn't you think this would only take 1 day to do be it that get flown around in private jets. Womack>Cairo on this one. Cairo I think just lacks the experience that Womack has. Career wise, his OB% is low, but his glove is slightly better not to mention his 90ft speed (when compared to cairo). I'd honestly like to see him holding up the rear end giving the yanks base stealing threat low in the order and enough speed for the top of the order to manufacture runs. Posada>Varitek - that's an easy easy choice. Defensively and Offensively Varitek's number might pose more productive but honestly the catcher's main role is to call a good game, know all your pitchers and their pitch selections not to mention the batters as well. Those numbers that the bench compares in matchups verse batters are essential for a catcher to know. I'm all in on Jorge as he is my favorite yankee player. He has the heart which compensates for preformance. Beltran and Bernie, both belong to Boras, how will it work? Talks speculating Beltran to take the 3/4 slot, moving sheff into 4th which is something I wouldn't do. I'd go with Jeter,A-Rod,Sheff,Matsui,Beltran,Bernie,Posada,1stBase,Womack pending who fills donny's corner. Delgado would be a decent acquisition for the corner along with Olreud provided that they didn't let him go. I highly doubt Giambi will be in pin stripes nor will his career ever go anywhere. If the yankees put him back in pinstripes they would only be proactively supporting the roid use. Something I don't think stein wants to reflect. However, say we remove all speculation about Giambi and he returns healthy, where would he bat? You think his bat could sit behind Beltran? Possibly really low in the order behind bernie? It'd pose a definite issue but remember any one swinging in the bottom of the order gets a much better pitch selection, in the yankee's case, their meat of the lineup extends into the bottom of the order which is definitely good for the yanks.

Womack should lead off. Slots everyone into better spots in the order. And Beltran is a 2 or 3 hitter, not 5.

Also, as for Posada and Varitek, put them on any other teams besides the Yankees and Red Sox, and Varitek is clearly the better player. However, in this case, each one is more valuable to his respective team, so it doesn't really matter.

I'm so glad the Giants signed Alou. I thought for sure that he'd be a Met. Whew...

Also, the Mets are looking at Eric Byrnes. If we could trade 1 or 2 young guys for him (Phillips, Heilman, Seo, blah blah blah), I'd do it in a heartbeat. Byrnes is a nice player and wears his heart on his sleeve. Plus he gives us a CF option for when Cammy is out for the first month or so. Then switch him over to RF when Cammy comes back. Sounds good to me. That is, of course, if we don't land Beltran.

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Sox sign Varitek.

Keeeeep going Theo. Spend as much money as you possibly can. Decide that you NEED Delgado to play first. Come on... realize that you need to free up some salary in order to make a run at whoever's available at the trade deadline next year. Come on Theo! You can do it.

**This thread is written in the hopes that, in order to free up salary, the Boston Red Stockings will decide that it is in their best interest to trade Manny Ramirez and Doug Mientkiewicz to the New York Metropolitans.**

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Mets looking into Odalis Perez.

That would be extremely interesting if we sign him. Could mean one of many things.

Trax gone for a 1b/RF/middle relief.
Glavine + Floyd to Boston for Manny and Minky.
Or we keep 6 starters and have a 6 man rotation.

I want Perez.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Womack should lead off. Slots everyone into better spots in the order. And Beltran is a 2 or 3 hitter, not 5. Also, as for Posada and Varitek, put them on any other teams besides the Yankees and Red Sox, and Varitek is clearly the better player. However, in this case, each one is more valuable to his respective team, so it doesn't really matter.

Question is can Womack keep up his OB% similar to LY. If so, then I agree, he fits in at leadoff. He can be Mr. Slappy plus 28 SB followed by Jeter who is a perfect number 2 guy. However.....if they got Beltran then things don't fit because I agree Beltran is a better number 2.

Jeter, Beltran, A Fraud, Sheff, Matsui, Posada, Tino/Juice boy, Bernie, Womack. That's: R,L,R,R,L,S,L,S,L

But assuming Beltran is a big if. January 8th is the deadline for Houston to sign him. So we should be hearing something within the next 10 days.

Varitek is better simply by comparison. Posada is though more suited to the Yankees. Just as Varitek is so crucial to Boston. Posada really struggled the 2nd half of LY.

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espn says the deal between the dbacks and the yanks are done.

Big Unit for Vazquez, Halsey, prospects and cash

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Things may be getting interesting... but I'm still not getting my hopes up.

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Let's select the five most intriguing stories of the off-season. In this opinion, they would be the Mets' signing of Pedro Martínez, Boston's signing of David Wells, the Yankees' acquisition of Randy Johnson, Oakland's trades of Tim Hudson and Mark Mulder, and Washington's attempt to lose the Expos before it had them. But if a weekend signal is accurate, the most intriguing story has yet to happen. If it does happen, it will be a nonmove, as opposed to the Martínez, Wells, Johnson, Hudson and Mulder moves. The nonmove? The Yankees will not sign Carlos Beltran, the most attractive, and expensive, position player on the free-agent market. But it's not just that the Yankees will not be signing Beltran. The story would be that the Yankees will not even try to sign him.

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The Mets, who are treating Latin America as a second home base this off-season, headed out on another recruiting trip yesterday. This time, they were off to see Carlos Beltran, and Fred Wilpon was along for the ride. When the Mets pursued the ace pitcher Pedro Martínez earlier this off-season, General Manager Omar Minaya flew to the Dominican Republic alone and had a private lunch with Martínez in Santo Domingo, which cleared the path for the Mets to sign him. The Mets are now serious enough about Beltran to send reinforcements. Wilpon, the team's principal owner, joined Minaya; Jim Duquette, the Mets' senior vice president for baseball operations; and the special assistant Tony Bernazard yesterday in San Juan, P.R. There they met with Beltran, who is from Puerto Rico, and his agent, Scott Boras, and began negotiating a possible contract.

NY TIMES Article

I'm very curious to see how this works out. The Yankees non-bid would do two things. 1) Make it MUCH easier for us to sign Beltran. 2) Would make us signing Beltran slightly less of an accomplishment because we didn't outbid the Yanks to do it. Anyway... we'll see. Probably no later than Saturday.

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And I've actually been thinking about this. As much as I thought the Yankees NEEDED Beltran because Bernie is gone after this year, I realized they don't. Beltran is an abnormal amount of money added to an already astronomical payroll. They could easily deal with Bern in CF for another year, then move Matsui to CF for '06. After that, say hello to Brian Giles, your new Yankee Left Fielder. And for those that don't know who he is... trust me, after a year you'll be saying 'Carlos who?'

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Originally posted by Shamez214 I'm very curious to see how this works out. The Yankees non-bid would do two things. 1) Make it MUCH easier for us to sign Beltran. 2) Would make us signing Beltran slightly less of an accomplishment because we didn't outbid the Yanks to do it. Anyway... we'll see. Probably no later than Saturday.

Less of an accomplishment vs. saving $$$?

I'd take saving less bucks over a 'less accomplished' signing

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Hard for me to believe that George's ego and dislike for the Mets wouldn't put them into the bidding just to raise the price up for the Mets (If they had decided not to go after Beltran for real). Similar to them talking with Pedro in hopes of driving his price up.

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Originally posted by verndogs Less of an accomplishment vs. saving $$$? I'd take saving less bucks over a 'less accomplished' signing

Oh, I would to. But we live in NYC. And you know how the media is. The Mets got a free pass because Steinbrenner said he didn't want Beltran. That's what all the papers will be saying.

I think Beltran goes 8/130.

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Originally posted by Member of X Hard for me to believe that George's ego and dislike for the Mets wouldn't put them into the bidding just to raise the price up for the Mets (If they had decided not to go after Beltran for real). Similar to them talking with Pedro in hopes of driving his price up.

Yeah... but what if Carlos WANTS to go to the Yankees and George offers him something just to drive the price up and he just takes it?

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