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Originally posted by George Smiley The solution to the asylum seeker "problem" is to let them work, simple as

then you get the "they took our jobs" speil. anyway, thats another issue. all what im saying is that you would have less asylum seekers if there is no conflict back home...which can be influnced by a gov's foriegn policy. plus the reason for the islamic terrorist threat is beacsue of the way a country and its scoiety is represented on the world stage: the foreign policy..so it does matter.

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Originally posted by svens_bath then you get the "they took our jobs" speil. anyway, thats another issue. all what im saying is that you would have less asylum seekers if there is no conflict back home...which can be influnced by a gov's foriegn policy. plus the reason for the islamic terrorist threat is beacsue of the way a country and its scoiety is represented on the world stage: the foreign policy..so it does matter.

Assuming there is a terrorist threat

ooooooo can't wait for the coverage to start later hehe, I'm pathetically excited about it.
I voted by post last week in my home constituency of Rushcliffe (basically South Nottinghamshire), since Manchester Central (where my uni halls are) is probably one of the safest Labour seat in the country so there seemed no point(68% of the vote in 2001, next was LD with 15%!!).
It was between Lid Dems and Conservatives for me, since socialism goes against alot of my ideas ruling Labour out. I thought that Id rather my parents were £4 a week better off as apposed to £8 a week worse off, so I voted Conservative (official stats from some think tank that worked this out from the partys' tax plans - published in The Times (I think) last week sometime) - I dont like the idea of my parents suffering finantially for not being fucking spongers. As if working families with children are not hit hard enough by the Labour Govt., the Lib Dems would turn the screw even more, I find that shocking to be perfectly honest.
It's a shame because the Lib Dems have a few good ideas, Im definitely with them on the environment, which is why Im pleased with my vote, because my MP is Kenneth Clarke (CON), who is a pretty liberal guy, a liberal guy with considerable influence as the ex-chancellor (92-97), sometimes I really wonder why hes in the conservative party hehe, so for me the vote is close to ideal, as Id probably feel more uneasy voting for a staunch right wing conservative.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Assuming there is a terrorist threat

there definitely is a terrorist 'threat'. how real it is debateable. but you can radically reduce this with the right foreign policy.

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Originally posted by eLe_vatE ooooooo can't wait for the coverage to start later hehe, I'm pathetically excited about it. I voted by post last week in my home constituency of Rushcliffe (basically South Nottinghamshire), since Manchester Central (where my uni halls are) is probably one of the safest Labour seat in the country so there seemed no point(68% of the vote in 2001, next was LD with 15%!!). It was between Lid Dems and Conservatives for me, since socialism goes against alot of my ideas ruling Labour out. I thought that Id rather my parents were £4 a week better off as apposed to £8 a week worse off, so I voted Conservative (official stats from some think tank that worked this out from the partys' tax plans - published in The Times (I think) last week sometime) - I dont like the idea of my parents suffering finantially for not being fucking spongers. As if working families with children are not hit hard enough by the Labour Govt., the Lib Dems would turn the screw even more, I find that shocking to be perfectly honest. It's a shame because the Lib Dems have a few good ideas, Im definitely with them on the environment, which is why Im pleased with my vote, because my MP is Kenneth Clarke (CON), who is a pretty liberal guy, a liberal guy with considerable influence as the ex-chancellor (92-97), sometimes I really wonder why hes in the conservative party hehe, so for me the vote is close to ideal, as Id probably feel more uneasy voting for a staunch right wing conservative.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Your not supposed to admit voting Tory!

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Originally posted by eLe_vatE It was between Lid Dems and Conservatives for me, since socialism goes against alot of my ideas ruling Labour out. I thought that Id rather my parents were £4 a week better off as apposed to £8 a week worse off, so I voted Conservative (official stats from some think tank that worked this out from the partys' tax plans - published in The Times (I think) last week sometime) - I dont like the idea of my parents suffering finantially for not being fucking spongers. As if working families with children are not hit hard enough by the Labour Govt., the Lib Dems would turn the screw even more, I find that shocking to be perfectly honest.

the lib dems have pleged to give increased maternity pay to working families..hows that making it worse for them?

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Just got back from voting...i was confused when they gave me two bits of paper, i didnt know which was local and which was national (im a voting virgin) so i just voted Lib Dem on both. Stupid Me!

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Originally posted by Jackson Just got back from voting...i was confused when they gave me two bits of paper, i didnt know which was local and which was national (im a voting virgin) so i just voted Lib Dem on both. Stupid Me!

hehe, not as bad as my sister, she thought that the general election sheet just had a list of the parties, not a list of candidates lol, so she thought the general election sheet was the local one, and put a cross by Kenneth Clarke's name because she's heard of him, fortunately for her, her housemate pointed out the error in her ways (since she wanted to vote lib dem for the general).

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Originally posted by zig The conservatives had a history of putting weak Northern Ireland [sic] secetarys in place as a type of retirement home....although a poisened chalice at the same time....Blair stuck Mo Mowlen in place and it really took off from there...she was there to do business and she did so with the backing of Blair and his government....Blair will definatly go down in history in Ireland as the one who genuinely kicked off the peace process to bring about a lasting resolution for the first time...and the tories can kiss my ass...W**kers

I think there'll always be a stigma attached to a conservative government from an Irish perspective. Throughout the last century they've always strongly sided with unionism in Ireland. For most Irish people Thatcher is the most hated woman ever, and she isn't that long gone. Although most of us here don't want the Brits poking their noses in our business, most would view a labour government the lesser of two evils.

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