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Originally posted by djmetatron it's a pity.. you bashers must think he's more of a god than I do, because you expect the goddamn world from him...

No, we only expect him to do his job as a DJ. But he doesn't even bother to do that properly anymore.

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please people. start knocking Tiesto when you have your own record label and have years of production under your belt. Your vain critisms may mean more to me then, but until then.. go back to jerking off in your apartment night after night.

I care nada for anything Tiesto related nowadays. I just love to argue, especially when I can show the world how utterly clueless and shit arguements like yours are. And, since you mentioned it, I can guarantee you that there are enough established DJs with record labels and several albums under their belts who think Tiesto is just as much of a joke as people on TA do.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper I can guarantee you that there are enough established DJs with record labels and several albums under their belts who think Tiesto is just as much of a joke as people on TA do.

Can you list them???

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Originally posted by tiestoisgod Can you list them???

Go ask any established techno artist what they think of Tiesto and you'll see. I'm sure they have some "interesting" views.

Dave Clarke
Richie Hawtin
Derrick May
Laurent Garnier

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Go ask any established techno artist what they think of Tiesto and you'll see. I'm sure they have some "interesting" views. Dave Clarke Richie Hawtin Derrick May Laurent Garnier

Are these in online interviews or any DJ mags? Aint seen anything kickin about in Mixmag or IDJ.

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Originally posted by tiestoisgod Are these in online interviews or any DJ mags? Aint seen anything kickin about in Mixmag or IDJ.

I wouldn't be looking for that in tabloids like Mixmag. Most DJs are too smart to start criticizing people in interviews for mags like that, as they always get their words twisted so that it means something completely different when the interview gets published.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper I wouldn't be looking for that in tabloids like Mixmag. Most DJs are too smart to start criticizing people in interviews for mags like that, as they always get their words twisted so that it means something completely different when the interview gets published.

That is true it would be stupid of them to do that, but how can you back up your previous statement? Not having a dig at you man but thats a statement you need a bit of solid copy behind.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper I can guarantee you that there are enough established DJs with record labels and several albums under their belts who think Tiesto is just as much of a joke as people on TA do.

there may be a few, but I think your in the minority here bud.

+ the ones u listed are TECHNO. What do they really have to offer as an opinion on Tiesto?

Techno is very differen't from Trance. I actually like Dave Clarke a lot as a producer, but he is too differen't from Tiesto to even mention in this debate, as well as the others u listed.

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as they always get their words twisted so that it means something completely different when the interview gets published.

as if you know what they are really thinking..

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Originally posted by djmetatron there may be a few, but I think your in the minority here bud. + the ones u listed are TECHNO. What do they really have to offer as an opinion on Tiesto? Techno is very differen't from Trance. I actually like Dave Clarke a lot as a producer, but he is too differen't from Tiesto to even mention in this debate, as well as the others u listed. as if you know what they are really thinking..

Paul thinks tiesto is a kiddi gimp. Does that count?

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Originally posted by djmetatron there may be a few, but I think your in the minority here bud. + the ones u listed are TECHNO. What do they really have to offer as an opinion on Tiesto? Techno is very differen't from Trance. I actually like Dave Clarke a lot as a producer, but he is too differen't from Tiesto to even mention in this debate, as well as the others u listed.

How does the music they are associated with make any difference? You said it was the people who have:

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your own record label and have years of production under your belt.

The people I mentioned qualify for that. Also, several of the techno DJs nowadays used to be trance producers/DJs in the past.

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as if you know what they are really thinking..

What does that have to do with anything? I know for a fact that people have gotten their words twisted and bent to insane proportions by tabloids like Mixmag. Danny Tenaglia had to write to the reader column himself to make clear that there were lots of things he never said or that were just plain wrong. That was my point.

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Originally posted by tiestoisgod That is true it would be stupid of them to do that, but how can you back up your previous statement? Not having a dig at you man but thats a statement you need a bit of solid copy behind.

I could dig up some, but I really don't see the need when they've stated stuff like "trance is for plebs and nonces" (Dave Clarke) and "Thanks to anti-trance.com for fighting against trance's continuing foothold in the US clubscene" (Richie Hawtin). You do the math.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper I could dig up some, but I really don't see the need when they've stated stuff like "trance is for plebs and nonces" (Dave Clarke) and "Thanks to anti-trance.com for fighting against trance's continuing foothold in the US clubscene" (Richie Hawtin). You do the math.

There is a need when you dont say where your getting this stuff from! Hawtin's post came from anti-trance.com if you say it does but what about Clarke's?
To be honest, no-one in the trance camp is gonna give 2 sh*ts about what someone else thinks of the music so their statements are kinda disposable. If some guy says my music is crap, I laugh at him!

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Originally posted by tiestoisgod There is a need when you dont say where your getting this stuff from! Hawtin's post came from anti-trance.com if you say it does but what about Clarke's? To be honest, no-one in the trance camp is gonna give 2 sh*ts about what someone else thinks of the music so their statements are kinda disposable. If some guy says my music is crap, I laugh at him!

My point is, when they think trance is as pathetic and laughable as they do, what do you think their view is on the biggest and most commercially succesful DJ to be associated with the genre? Especially when that DJ has willingly and actively pursued popstardom?

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper My point is, when they think trance is as pathetic and laughable as they do, what do you think their view is on the biggest and most commercially succesful DJ to be associated with the genre? Especially when that DJ has willingly and actively pursued popstardom?

Again, you aint said what your sources are so your arguement is kinda floored.

The fact is Tiesto has done a lot for the scene and he was one of the guys who got me into it back in the day so I for one am always gonna have a lotta respect for him.

Now yeah I acept he is a manufactured product, but at the same time the techno gods can slag him off coz the closest thing they got to a superstar in a pop sense is Mauro Picotto!!!

FLAME ON!!!!

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