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RJT
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| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
Morality and religion are seperate friend. Dont put words in my mouth. Ethical and Moral actions can be labeled, judged, and measured. And your "premise" of "If you can you should" is one of the stupidest fucking things Ive ever heard. Go duct tape a chop stick into the oven sensor and bake your head at 400 degrees for a few hours. You were meant to, thats why you can.
" I urge you to open your eyes and start making decisions that are rationally and logically through your own eyes, not through what you've been told by social authority figures... "
uhm...riiiiight. |
ROFL... you obviously missed the point...
It's not a because we can, we should premise, it's a simple fact of life. People have sex to perpetuate the human race, it's not dirty or sinful, it's natural...
And while I agree that religion and morals are two different things, people who can differentiate the two tend not to boast about their moral high ground...
| quote: | | logically speaking, u are just as close-minded as we are |
You keep telling yourself that... you're the one making blatantly close-minded statements along the lines of:
| quote: | | our morality is currupt. todays world proves that |
WTF does that even mean? I'll agree, there are some terrible things going on in the world right now (i.e. The Middle East, AIDS, basically everything that's happening in Africa, teh Bush administration, etc.) But I'll tell you this much, don't tell me I'm morally corrupt just because things in the world aren't how you think they should be...
I'll tell you guys this much, in my opinion, if all of you "TA Virgins" were really secure in your virginity and happy with where you lives are at, this thread would never have been created...
People with real convictions don't need others to validate them...
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Jun-02-2005 00:49
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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
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woah woah woah, this was originally meant as light-hearted fun. soon turns into a philosophical debate.
| quote: | You keep telling yourself that... you're the one making blatantly close-minded statements along the lines of:
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our morality is currupt. todays world proves that
WTF does that even mean? I'll agree, there are some terrible things going on in the world right now (i.e. The Middle East, AIDS, basically everything that's happening in Africa, teh Bush administration, etc.) But I'll tell you this much, don't tell me I'm morally corrupt just because things in the world aren't how you think they should be...
I'll tell you guys this much, in my opinion, if all of you "TA Virgins" were really secure in your virginity and happy with where you lives are at, this thread would never have been created...
People with real convictions don't need others to validate them... |
im not telling myself anything. im not stating anything to myself but to you and the other people reading this. theres no need for the serious personal assaults here. pity this turned sour.
if your not morally currupt, are u telling me, youve never lied, stolen, cheated, etc.? if u havnt, u can truelly say, that you are morally incurruptable.
br0, this is COR, we make stupid threads and alliances all the time. nothin wrong with a virginity alliance. light-hearted fun. COR COR COR, there is no seriousness to this forum. go make yourself a playa's alliance or somethin. join in the fun. u dont have to bash it.
if u dont "need" to validate any of your convictions, then how much validity do u have when u state your convictions and dont know why u believe in those convictions. if u dont know why u believe something, then your beliefs are based on nothing but faith and faith doesnt cut it.
u dont need a philosophy major to debate philosophy. u just have to be well informed and know your beliefs and why u believe them.
PS. lighten up m8 
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Jun-02-2005 02:22
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Orbax
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Apr 2002
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Damn, I thought virgins were supposed to be the close minded ones haha.
Guys, #1 its a joke, dont come in and talk about TiTs and then not know these guys' histories. You dont know mine or TVDs yet I do, weird. Maybe cuz ive been here 3 years and actually have something to stand on.
You turned a relatively light hearted discussion into a ... I dont even know what
apparently,,,youre...MORE moral? or that morality is bs? I cant quite make the equation you are of "this is propaganda" therefore all virgins everywhere should go get fucked.
I dont know its just bullshit... on both sides.
PS yes, I studied philosophy for 2 years. weeeeeeeeee. The proof is in the pudding though as they say, and whether or not youve taken formal logic has nothing to do with how logical you are or your arguments are.
Take you for example. Bringing up age like its a sure fire way to prove something. Or that a TiT will claim it there fore the TiT must be lying and is neccesarily un taught in logic...
A LOT of assumptions goin on there.
Point of all this is that you seem offended by the fact some people are glad they dodged the bullet with some shitty relationships, yet look forward to a sexually active fulfilling one in the future.
How is that wrong or close minded? Or is your argument you cant know love till youve rammed a cock into a wet hole until you orgasmed.
PPS Stormy Waters would tell you to "shutuuup" you made him cry you crappy bastard
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Jun-02-2005 02:41
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Sunsnail
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Registered: Sep 2004
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| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
woah woah woah, this was originally meant as light-hearted fun. soon turns into a philosophical debate.
im not telling myself anything. im not stating anything to myself but to you and the other people reading this. theres no need for the serious personal assaults here. pity this turned sour.
if your not morally currupt, are u telling me, youve never lied, stolen, cheated, broken a law consiously, etc.? if u havnt, u can truelly say, that you are morally incurruptable.
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I'm not sure if I can agree with you there. Breaking a law in general doesn't have anything to do with morality. There are some really stupid laws out there. A government can really make any laws it pleases, but it doesn't mean that they're moral etc.
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Jun-02-2005 02:46
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prolikewhoa
veteran attention whore

Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Berlin
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| quote: | Originally posted by djmetatron
^^^this, is propaganda. Virginity means absolutely nothing, there is so much grey area here it's not funny. What about rape victims, what about just being drunk and not remembering, what about homosexuality? I think people put too much emphasis on fucking and not enough on the relationships. Sex is simply a benefit of a relationship, not the end-all dealbreaker that you make it out to be. Sure people become more attatched after fucking and if you dont want to go there fine, but dont parade your virginity around like your better than others who have made that leap. |
i agree with this. i respect everyone's right to wait or to not wait, but neither decision makes you better than anyone else.
it's a personal choice, and it shouldn't be paraded around as a public bandwagon. i know it's all in good fun, though, so i'm not gonna stress it. you virgins know i <3 ya (you know who you are).
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