Saw Gabriel and Dresden two weekends ago in Minneapolis using Ableton, and I couldn't really detect a huge difference in capabilities from vinyl or cds. I really don't know how this program works, or what it lets you do exactly, but from a performance standpoint the show was as good as if not better than any I've seen before. But that comes down to track selection and reading the crowd. Knowing what track to play to bring people to their knees or make then put their hands in the air, is something that no program can do for you. So I couldnt give two shits how you make the music come out of the speakers, so long as its good.

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Originally posted by mstearn1 Saw Gabriel and Dresden two weekends ago in Minneapolis using Ableton, and I couldn't really detect a huge difference in capabilities from vinyl or cds. I really don't know how this program works, or what it lets you do exactly, but from a performance standpoint the show was as good as if not better than any I've seen before. But that comes down to track selection and reading the crowd. Knowing what track to play to bring people to their knees or make then put their hands in the air, is something that no program can do for you. So I couldnt give two shits how you make the music come out of the speakers, so long as its good.

Wow THEY are using it too?!

People don't realise that this is a HUGE innovation to live DJing...the capabilities are endless and we've only just gotten started...

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

Its kind of depressing for me to read these threads, because i just dropped 2 Gs on a turntable set up. Makes it kinda seem like a waste of money, and time to learn how to use em.

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Originally posted by mstearn1 Its kind of depressing for me to read these threads, because i just dropped 2 Gs on a turntable set up. Makes it kinda seem like a waste of money, and time to learn how to use em.

No way man...spinning records is still hella fun...you can always keep practicing to try and get to Digweed's level

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Aquarian What I'd like to see is the same kind of concept applied on a piece of hardware where you could twist knobs and buttons rather than using your mouse and a laptop. This could allow the flexibility of ableton without taking away from the DJ's interaction with the crowd. Add something else to the typical decks & mixer setup.

FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!!! SASHA DOES USE A CONTROLLER (and others too) AND TWISTS KNOBS AND PRESSES BUTTONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS WHY THE BLOODY THING EXISTS!!!!!!!! HE'S NOT DOING LIVE PA'S!!!!!! HE'S DOING MORE THINGS THE WAY HE DID THEM ON A MIXER, except now its called maven.

wow lets fight over it like little bitches.....who cares, if it sounds good then you should be happy, stop crying, theres families in nigeria sleeping under one blanket.

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To anyone who says it detracts from a DJ's skill... DJing is about, more than anything else, playing music to a crowd. Track selection, knowing what they want to hear, that kind of thing. And the medium they use is up to them (well, except for maybe vinyl if all the predictions that it's gonna die out are true.) Beatmatching is 1) not that hard to do after a lot of practice and 2) not the most important thing for playing to a crowd, although good beatmatching does sound better, unless you slip up quite badly not a lot of people are really gonna notice, not everyone is a DJ.



So yeah, I guess I'm pro-Ableton, it's just another way (with some nice features ) for a DJ to play music to a crowd, and if they can do even more cool shit, effects, whatever, with it then that's a plus.

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Originally posted by mcconaghy You can swap personalities in the HoloDJ settings. The BT personalities pre-slices your audio, without asking, on the sample level, so you end up with millions upon millions of segments, streched out over millions upon millions of tracks. Sadly, since you don't have several Terrabytes of RAM and aren't working under OS X 10.7 with a Pentium MG 10 CPU, your computer will crash before you can say "What's up with the Hentai hair, dude?"

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i dont really care if the dj is mixing off 8-tracks.

good music well delivered makes peoPLe dance and remember, thats pretty much the bottom line here.

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for the price of just a decent mixer you can buy a good laptop + ableton live ! lol

DJ gear is so overpriced

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i saw hawtin on saturday night there and the whole show just impressed me no end, the guy's a genious and the fact he uses ableton didn't affect my enjoyment, in fact it only enhanced it.