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Originally posted by LiquidX You are correct.. then tell me how the hell are they transporting people out of the superdome?!?!.. BUSES. YEs, the main artery to the city is shut down but there are alternate, LONGER ways.. but there is. IM not throwing the blame on Bush, there's something called the Homeland Security, in which there has been BILLIONS of dollars invested on it for this kind of things, terrorism, disasters and all that kind of thing.. and whats been seen its just ludicrus.. I understand all of what has been mentioned, but its just obviouse of the slow response in the assistance. Like I said.. Even BUSH admited it to it for those that keep defending that everything done is correct, just to let you guys know that your guy admited how slow the assistance is.. and that all he can do now is correct it.. I will look for that Speech and posted here if non of you believe me on that. Its dumb to go anti bush yeah, but its clear to criticize the government and this administration as a whole on how they've handled this.

Dude first i like your position, the one that blame Bush for all the shit is happening are just stupid, that dont know anything about politics. Well Felipe i think that the buses had probably been there, im sure that in NO they have Bus companies, like Coach and all that crap that are available for use, or maybe as you know they have sports team and shiet and they probably use their transportation to move the people. But note these type of transporations are in New Orleans already, i think. I doubt that they are coming from outside. Bush is going to give like $10bn of aid, correct me if im wrong i think its more, but remember the process of aid is sometimes takes a bit long, because it has to pass through congress, especially when dealing with money, if you understand politics you get what i mean. But since bush is also the commander and chief, YES he was slow regarding sending navy ships and w.e have you to assist the people

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Originally posted by mdamon7278 I think its time for Bush to go bye bye

Yea.. John Kerry would be doing a hell of a better job right? LOL

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Originally posted by rhaney a) where? in flooded waters? b) can you imagine dropping food, water, and supplies to 10,000 desperate refugees? A lot of people would be getting killed if that happened. The problem is NOT at the Superdome.. sure, the inside of the dome is nasty and has problems.. but they are all getting fed... the problem is throughout the rest of the city. Unless they have 18 wheel trucks that can become floating boats... There is NOWAY for them to get around the city. The superdome is not flooded... the superdomedome is the highest spot in the city... thats not where the problem is.. and thats how they can get buses in and out of there.

a) Nope, in the superdome.
b) I could imagine its just dumb. Everyone is making their way to the superdome.. and where the ones been rescued are been dropped off. Sadly, people are dying IN the superdome. Its true that the problem is NOT ONLY in the superdome, but throughout the city. And no, not all are getting fed in the superdome. There's about 60-70,000 people in and around the Superdome.. Im never mentioned the city as a whole.. I was talking about the superdome where the majority of refugees are gathering and looking for help.. hence it would be a great place to START at least, but 0 of that.. get me?.... Anyways, from what IM hearing assistance is finally arriving at the dome like I just said.. and evacuation on the hospitals have resumed and convoy's of buses are taking people out, as well as choppers dropping off food like I just said.. all of the above of what I just said should have been done its been done as we speak.. so yeah, IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE before. good source of news www.cnn.com theres also pictures for those of who cant read uhum .

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Originally posted by mdamon7278 He is just stupid, take him off out of the sandbox and beat the shit out of him, I call fallingmoon and baby rachel, they are hanging out at chuck e cheese, happy hour, and they will hit the skateboards and come over and beat his ass as well

Dude this shit might me a joke to you. But to me is not, i fukin care about those peep, its terrible man. You can view this issue as a joke or w,e have you, but im trying to make a point on a serious issue and all you do is talk crap. Your lucky that Katrina didnt do shit here, comparing to NO and you are just there sittin on the comp talking shiet, come on man! If you have something good to contribute to this topic, please do so, if not keep the comments to yourself.

I also care... because this could had easily been Miami.. I live on the beach, so that storm suge of 25 feet would have wiped out my high rise building.

Its obvious that 1/2 of us has different views.. and they are all valid points and views... but this topic was about Michael Moor pulling this letter out of his ass... and sending it to every news organization across the world... just to take a jab at the republican party... thats bullshit. Worry about politics after the facts... for whomever gets the blame... worry about that shit later... In the meantime, we have cities wiped out, people dying, people homeless, people with no jobs, people with no nothing. Sure.. there were things that went wrong.. but im going to stick by the president on this one.. because they really are doing everything they can possibly do... its a HUGE project.

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Originally posted by arnoldjch Dude this shit might me a joke to you. But to me is not, i fukin care about those peep, its terrible man. You can view this issue as a joke or w,e have you, but im trying to make a point on a serious issue and all you do is talk crap. Your lucky that Katrina didnt do shit here, comparing to NO and you are just there sittin on the comp talking shiet, come on man! If you have something good to contribute to this topic, please do so, if not keep the comments to yourself.

99.9 % of posts are lame, and u always are trying to have the better comment, look at yourself

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Originally posted by arnoldjch Dude first i like your position, the one that blame Bush for all the shit is happening are just stupid, that dont know anything about politics. Well Felipe i think that the buses had probably been there, im sure that in NO they have Bus companies, like Coach and all that crap that are available for use, or maybe as you know they have sports team and shiet and they probably use their transportation to move the people. But note these type of transporations are in New Orleans already, i think. I doubt that they are coming from outside. Bush is going to give like $10bn of aid, correct me if im wrong i think its more, but remember the process of aid is sometimes takes a bit long, because it has to pass through congress, especially when dealing with money, if you understand politics you get what i mean. But since bush is also the commander and chief, YES he was slow regarding sending navy ships and w.e have you to assist the people

Bro I dont know where you are getting your sources.. but IM sure is not from any of the media. Buses are coming from outside, how the heck do you think they are getting to Sant Antonio and Dallas Texas?!?!.. Tourists gathered 25,000 dollars to get buses and get them out of there. Did you know that?? .. Guess you didnt.

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Obviously this is not all Bush's fault or even much his fault at all (i gotta admit that as much as i think Bush is the worst president of my lifetime) The fed is doing the best it can (under Bush the best isn't that good), but they are trying to help out of course.
The one thing that gets me though is this:

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And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!

It's true that the Bush admin has done this, they possibly would have had reinforced levees had it not been for this. Just goes to show you the consequences of neglecting your own country to rebuild some peice of shit country on the other side of the world. STUPID!

But the fact is the New Orleans and Lousianna state government is stupid as fuck for not having disaster plans for this, like pretty much anywhere in Florida does. The fact that they even built a city below sea level with such vulnerability, to not have solid plans is pure neglegence. And mayor Nagin is a fuckin idiot who just keeps whining "oh come help us" "oh the fed isn't doing enough", ever think you are the one who should be doing something mr. mayor? or better yet who should have done something years ago.

No doubt Bush's continued neglect has probably made a bad situation worse, but the fed is doing the best they can and a releif effort of this magnitude doesnt happen overnight.

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Originally posted by mdamon7278 He is just stupid, take him off out of the sandbox and beat the shit out of him, I call fallingmoon and baby rachel, they are hanging out at chuck e cheese, happy hour, and they will hit the skateboards and come over and beat his ass as well

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PatMcGroin you said that bush is sitting on his ass while people suffer...what are you doing? i believe you were sitting on your ass typing that so don't judge someone if you are doing the same thing. Bush is sitting on his ass because he's telling people what to do thats his job. What is he going to do by himself in new orleans?nothing, his job is to be a leader and show people what they should do to help. Liquidx they cant make drops in the superdome the thing is virtually inhabitable. It has no power, it is wet and dark. Can you imagine how hot is in there and i'm sure mold is already forming which can make people sick, it is not a good place. People seriously will kill for water and food there is a right way to do provide supplies so although it is a time of desperation there has to be common sense and patients on how to provide relief. and as far as michael moore he is a douchebag trying to be cooler than everyone by raising controversy people the movie he made of 911 was FICTION!!! it is not a documentary with accurate information!!!! get a clue the guy just wants drama

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Originally posted by LiquidX Bro I dont know where you are getting your sources.. but IM sure is not from any of the media. Buses are coming from outside, how the heck do you think they are getting to Sant Antonio and Dallas Texas?!?!.. Tourists gathered 25,000 dollars to get buses and get them out of there. Did you know that?? .. Guess you didnt.

Well you ill give it to you on that one, i couldnt find any info where the transporation was coming from. Well here is the latest news on the issue: Help At Last

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin no. i blame bush for sitting on his ass while thousands of people suffer.

no it's not really bush's job. it's their local government's job. President already has a lot of shit on his hands, and it's nice of him to go out on a limb to help. That's like saying it's the state trooper's job to stop a local bank robbery. No, not really, it's the local police's job.

I don't know why we're arguing this over the internets....

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