good for them, bad for their dad. North American society ducks and hides at the sheer arogance and confidance of european society.

we've got BET, asian television networks, south asian news and Al jezera (sp) so there is nothing wrong with white nationalsism....or the shared joy in the community of the white folk. It is unfortunate that words like nazi and racism have to be intertwined in the conversation. Because I love my white self and I don;t concer myself with the dark clouds that happen to cast a shadow on my world.

I wonder if their music sucks though.

In some ways, its not so different then typical shoot em up , bang those bitches ridin on dubs "hip hop"...but its wrong on many other levels too.


they have just been misguided by their rents.

but the shirt they are wearing here cracks me up. oh shit.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I couldn't even make it past the 3rd paragraph, or jon jon's 2nd post in this thread. What an absolute crock of shit. But nonetheless typical of the hard-Left ABC news culture. Editorials masquerading as news. There's barely a modicum of factual information in that article - just a lot of emotionally-charged rhetoric and loaded words like "racist". Racism is a belief in the superiority of a particular race. In the one snippet of song lyrics they published, which was presumably the most powerful example they could find, the evidence of such a belief is *at best* inconclusive and debatable. The only comment that actually made any sense was the comparison of these lyrics to gangsta rap. Regardless of this writer's incredibly transparent attempt to wave off that analogy, it's essentially what the music is. It may be stupid, and it may be in poor taste, but it's protected by freedom of speech and certainly is NOT spreading "hate" (where does it say anything about blacks, such that the NAACP needs to get on their case about it?). Frankly, even though I don't agree with their message, I'm glad to see that some artists out there aren't petrified of offending the delicate sensibilities of liberal airheads sensitivity-trained into a coma. The only thing about this whole issue that truly reflects the "sorry state of the world" is the fact that some journalists actually consider these things newsworthy.

u should look at some other news articles about these girls

""What does '88' mean?" she asks. (The girls respond that it stands for 'Heil Hitler' -- "a comradic thing," says Lamb.)

"What does '14 words' mean?" ("We must secure the existence of our people and our future for white children," says Lamb.)

"So the term 'mud,' what does that refer to?" (Lamb: "A non-white.")

"What does it imply?" McFadden follows up, her eyes narrowing. (Lamb: "Instead of saying, you know, saying a racial slur, it's just like oh, 'mud.' They call us 'cracker,' we call them 'mud.')"

Alliance member (neo-Nazi National Alliance) Rich Lindstrom is a believer. He predicts the Gaede twins will "capture the imagination of young boys and girls all across the world. The impact could be huge and their influence will encourage 'copycats' ... creating an entire genre of pro-White music. ... I'm hanging on the edge of my seat with anticipation."
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/inte...cle.jsp?aid=539

Lyrics of their songs

http://nervyb.blogspot.com/2005/10/...b-and-lynx.html

its an interesting read

I just dont get the points some of you are trying to make...it is just un fukkin real...again, nothing wrong being proud to be white or whatever...but love for Hitler, Nazi dictums, etc..this is just too much..i think your people try over analyzing this stuff and try to put some pseudo intellectual face on.

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Originally posted by sufee_b I just dont get the points some of you are trying to make...it is just un fukkin real...again, nothing wrong being proud to be white or whatever...but love for Hitler, Nazi dictums, etc..this is just too much..i think your people try over analyzing this stuff and try to put some pseudo intellectual face on.

I cannot make comment with regard to these two particular persons or their song lyrics as I really have little to no knowledge of them. That said, I think your stateing that having a fondness for Hitler or Nazi Party policies is objectively negative shows a great deal of ingorance toward both Hitler and Nazism. Granted Hitler was a racist and that came through in his politics, however, he and the Nazi party were also amongst the most socially minded and forward thinking political movements in the history of modern nation states. Much of what the Nazi party did as far as a social welfare system has since been adopted by nation states (including this one) around the world.... for instance... national health care (all industrialized nations), social security (most industrialized nations), govenment mediated labour relations (Sweden, France, Norway, Findland, and to a lesser extend UK and Canada), Corporatist economic structure (EU), government funded and maintained infrastructure (roads, power generation, communications networks - all G8 nations except the US), and far too many more social advances to list. Certainly, there were less then admirable motives for some of these (like the autobans which were constructed almost exclusively for the purposes of moving troops and equipment) and some of these systems were only availible for Germans (according to the Nazi definition - persons born with germanic blood) but you cannot completely write them off as evil due to motive. Despite all the contempt for persons that didn't fit with the eugenic wants of the Nazi party one must still recognize that they were likely the most responsible and socialist government (up to that time) for their citizens (again according to Nazi definition - Germans).

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

Yeah... this was pretty crazy to read... but i have to say it really didn't phase me very much.. there is tons of this stuff going on in the world...everywhere you go... i have a feeling that just becasue these girls happen to be of German decent is whats making ppl so worked up about it due to all of that history involved with Hitler and such...
and while i think it it awful and clearly wrong i have to agree with some of the ppl giving their two cents in here...
any kind of supremacy is wrong.. be it from any race or culture.. its wrong either way.. there is a thin line between supremacy and empowerment.... and while i beleve its great for for ppl to be proud of their race.. its quite another to feel superior to someone else because of their colour of skin

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The dad with the swastika for a belt buckle is a little over the top.

As for the girls singing about being white. Not a damn thing wrong with that. Black people can sing about how they are proud of being black, listen to Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, Nas. They have their own video channel. And for some reason if someone says that they are proud of being white they are automatically labelled racist. Being proud of being white does not necessarily mean that you wish to destroy all who are not like you, it just means that you are comfortable within your skin and that you are proud of your roots and many North Americans are most deffinetly NOT.

Westerners are too politically correct, this is not a good thing because it leads to pointless tiptoeing around touchy issues. In Europe and even European communities over here, people are a little more open minded.

Personally, I don't find that it affects me so much. Again, it's a point of view others have pointed out on this board before, but there seems to be too much of a double standard in our society, and no one ever seems to balk at the cultural preservation of any other ethnicity, other than white.
I do find it stupid and immoral that white culture is, in this instance particularily, associated with Nazism, and so forth, but other than that stupidity, which is something oft found, I see nothing wrong with what they are doing.

Everyone seems to be getting really worked up about this whole "racist" propaganda that those girls are spreading.

But there are BIGGER fucking issues in this world then 2 little girls spreading bullshit lies!

How about the fact that there is enough food in America to feed the entire world, yet every year 15 million children die of hunger.

How about the 3 billion people who have to live on less then $2(US) a day.

In England, hotels, restaurants, the health service and other providers of goods and services are legally allowed to discriminate against lesbian and gay people. Its even worst in America.


All im saying is.. there are bigger issues in this world to deal with. Your own government is robbing you blind, yet everyone is getting more pissed off at 2 little girls for making shitty music.

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Originally posted by Mag1k The dad with the swastika for a belt buckle is a little over the top. As for the girls singing about being white. Not a damn thing wrong with that. Black people can sing about how they are proud of being black, listen to Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, Nas. They have their own video channel. And for some reason if someone says that they are proud of being white they are automatically labelled racist. Being proud of being white does not necessarily mean that you wish to destroy all who are not like you, it just means that you are comfortable within your skin and that you are proud of your roots and many North Americans are most deffinetly NOT.

Lyrics from Lamb and Lynx

"Well you're walking round in circles, burying your head in the sand. Watching but not caring, while they rape your land."

"When the man who plows the fields is driven from his lands. When the carpenter must give away what he's built with his own hands. When a mother's only children belong to her no more. And black masked men with guns come bashing down the doors. Where freedom exists for only those with darker skin. Where lies and propaganda will never let you win. Where symbols of your heritage are held with such contempt, and benefits of country 'cept tax are you exempt .

Aryan man awake, How much more will you take, Turn that fear to hate, Aryan man awake.

Can you see how they lie to warp your daughter's minds? Can you let your sons be trodden down or held behind? Can you apologize for things you did not do, and leave this battle that we fight to the proud and the few? What will it take for you to waken to the truth? What will it take for you to remember your own youth? What will you give up to help this worthy Cause, and strike with force and fury, without a single pause?

What will it take for you to remember your own folk? What will it take for you to break that heavy yoke? Why do you still cast your eyes downward to the ground? Worry lest what you say have prejudicial sound. Who will stand beside us when the war begins? Who will run and hide their heads and wait to see who wins? Who will face the end and watch a Valkyrie ride forth To join the gods and fallen stormtroopers of the North? "

"Soon will come a great war, a bloody but holy day. And after that purging our people will be free,"

"Times are very tough now for a proud White man to live. And although it may appear that this world has no life to give...Our gift to you we bring: A holy creed of Racial purpose, A mighty Race to defend. And when we fly our holy flag Their oppressive reign shall end…"

----its one thing to be proud of our heritage (dutch and damn pleased about it!!). its another to say that having other races in your country is somehow ruining your way of life. that u must "hate", must "fight"..that they are the enemy.

and if u don't believe these girls are a negative influence..or even participating in racist behaviour...got to the forums



"... the purpose of a college education is to give people the right attitude towards minorities and the means to live as far away from them as possible." sig. quote

"Blacks in America need to stop complaining -- they do all the crime, take huge proportions of welfare, etc."

"welcome to the evil face of democracy... while us hard working American citizens work hard for our money, they just sit their 500 lb back-sides and complain. your right, Veltgen, they do need to stop complaining! if it wasnt for us Whites, the 'muds' (as Lamb and Lynx put it, hehe) would be nothing at all!"

"All I've seen in this thread were explanations of how browns&blacks screw up our living conditions. I dont think the word hate was used.

Besides, wouldn't you naturally hate someone if they raped and killed someone you cared deeply for? We see these sub-humans taking all hope for the future and are trying to warn more of our folk about it. 14/88" (look at my previous post to see what 14/88 stand for)