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This is the man you want to elect...
And the last I heard this was a forum where insults were suposed to be limited.
Of course I guess old habits die hard diginut...
Please read this carefully, and process the kind of leader you'd like to elect. I can pull up many articles to back up my "shuddering views" of this party.
And like I said, this is my opinion.
Harper is not being "completely honest"
Challenge from 133 experts in Canada's universities
"Have we no respect for the rule of law? . . . We are supposed to be the party that stands for the rights of individuals. Times have changed and it's time we changed with them."
Marie-Josee Lapointe, former press secretary to Tory Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, "Harper's gay marriage strategy exposes rift among Conservatives", CP, Jan. 27, 2005
Stephen Harper, leader of the Conservative Party, is not being "completely honest" with Canadians about his strategy to fight same-sex marriage. His disingenuous approach conveniently ignores the unconstitutional foundation it is based on.
The Vancouver Sun (Jan. 24) and Toronto Star (Jan. 25) call Harper's approach a "dishonest strategy". The Victoria Times Colonist (Jan. 25, 2005) wrote of "hollow brinkmanship ... He should acknowledge, therefore, that if Parliament denies same-sex marriage rights to all Canadians, the courts will give it to them."
This afternoon in a news conference Harper confirmed he won't use the notwithstanding clause, and he claims his party has "sought legal advice" and Conservative party lawyers support his strategy. Harper apparently should send his lawyers back to school.
Today 133 law professors, including Deans of Law, from Canada's universities, coast to coast, issued a letter challenging Harper to drop the pretense and deliver some straight talk about gay marriage. Harper has a long history of hidden agendas, apparently lacking the courage to be upfront about his radical right-wing agenda aimed at attacking Charter rights and freedoms.
Open Letter to The Hon. Stephen Harper from Law Professors Regarding Same-Sex Marriage
The Hon. Stephen Harper
Leader of the Opposition
Dear Mr. Harper,
The federal government has made it clear that it intends to introduce legislation in the House of Commons to extend to same-sex couples the right to marry. You have indicated that you oppose this legislation, and intend to propose amendments to limit the definition of marriage to only opposite sex couples. You also stated that it would not be legally necessary to use the Charter's notwithstanding clause to protect a statutory definition of marriage that excludes same sex couples. As law professors, we strenuously disagree. You must be completely honest with Canadians about the unconstitutionality of your proposal, which will only guarantee that same sex marriage ends up back before the courts as opposed to being resolved by Parliament. Your position is surprising for someone who has constantly defended the preeminence of Parliament.
Even though the Supreme Court of Canada did not address this issue in the recent same-sex marriage reference, courts in British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Newfoundland, Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia and the Yukon are now unanimously of the view that a definition of marriage that excludes same-sex couples is unconstitutional. The consensus of constitutional experts is that these decisions are correct. You must explain to Canadians how your plan to entrench the traditional definition of marriage will pass constitutional muster. The truth is, there is only one way to accomplish your goal: invoke the notwithstanding clause. Premier Klein has been honest with Canadians on this subject. You must be completely candid with Canadians as well.
If Parliament were to adopt your proposal and define marriage to exclude same sex couples, this legislation would very quickly end up in court, and be struck down as unconstitutional. However, the Charter allows Parliament to have the last word on many issues of fundamental rights, through the notwithstanding clause. Frankly, we do not think this is an appropriate case for the use of this extraordinary provision. However, if you believe that same-sex couples should be prohibited from getting married, you should propose legislative amendments that include a notwithstanding provision.
The fact that you want Parliament to enact clearly unconstitutional legislation and adopt the traditional definition of marriage without using the notwithstanding clause leads us to suspect that you are playing politics with the Supreme Court and the Charter. The use of the notwithstanding clause would have to be justified to Canadians, who overwhelmingly support the Charter. Not using the notwithstanding clause therefore protects opponents of same sex marriage from political controversy. And if the Supreme Court judgment struck down the opposite sex definition of marriage, opponents of same sex marriage would blame the Court for challenging Parliament's will.
In short, those who oppose same sex marriage without supporting the use of the notwithstanding clause are shifting political accountability from themselves to the Supreme Court. Rather than ending the Supreme Court's involvement, it would further embroil the Court in this issue. You should either invoke the use of the notwithstanding clause, and justify this decision to Canadians, or concede that same-sex marriage is now part of Canada's legal landscape. If you intend to override Canadians' constitutional rights, you at least owe it to them to say this openly and directly. Canadians deserve better.
Sincerely,
Professor Sujit Choudhry, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto
Professor Jean-François Gaudreault-DesBiens, Faculty of Law
Additional co-signers:
Professor Wendy Adams, Faculty of Law, McGill University
Professor Sharryn Aiken, Faculty of Law, Queen’s University Professor Jennifer Bankier, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professor Benjamin Alarie, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Reem Bahdi, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professeur André Bélanger, Faculté de droit, Université Laval Professor D. G. Bell, Faculty of Law, University of New Brunswick Professeure Marie-Claire Belleau, Faculté de droit, Université Laval Professor Benjamin Berger, Faculty of Law, University of Victoria Professor Jeff Berryman, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professor W. A. Bogart, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professeur Thierry Bourgoignie, Département des sciences juridiques, UQAM
Professor Susan Boyd, Faculty of Law, University of British Columbia Professor Kim Brooks, Faculty of Law, University of British Columbia Professor Jutta Brunnée, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Karen Busby, Faculty of Law, University of Manitoba Professor Gillian Calder, Faculty of Law, University of Victoria Professor Angela Campbell, Faculty of Law, McGill University Professor Timothy Caulfield, Faculty of Law, University of Alberta Professor Aloke Chatterjee, Faculty of Law, University of New Brunswick
Professor Rebecca Cook, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Brenda Cossman, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professeure Gisèle Côté-Harper, Faculté de droit, Université Laval Professor Steve Coughlan, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professor Carys Craig, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University Professeur Francois Crépeau, Faculté de droit, Université de Montréal
Professor Robert J. Currie, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professeur Hugo Cyr, Faculté de science politique et de droit, UQAM. Dean Ronald Daniels, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto
Professor T. Brettel Dawson, Department of Law, Carleton University Professor Maneesha Deckha, Faculty of Law, University of Victoria Professeure Édith Deleury, Faculté de droit, Université Laval Professor Thomas J. Denholm, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professor Richard Devlin, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professor Aaron Dhir, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professor Bernard Dickens, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Meinhard Doelle, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professor Susan Drummond, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University
Professeur Nicole Duplé, Faculté de droit, Université Laval
Professor David G. Duff, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor David Dyzenhaus, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Lisa Karen Fainstein, Faculty of Law, University of Manitoba
Professor Angela Fernandez, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor M. Michelle Gallant, Faculty of Law, University of Manitoba Professor Daphne Gilbert, Faculty of Law, University of Ottawa Professor Joan Gilmour, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University Professeure Michelle Giroux, Faculté de droit, Section de droit civil, Université d'Ottawa
Professor Myron Gochnauer, Faculty of Law, University of New Brunswick
Professor Randal Graham, Faculty of Law, University of Western Ontario
Professor Leslie Green, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University Professor Donna Greschner, College of Law, University of Saskatchewan
Professeure Sylvette Guillemard, Faculté de droit, Université Laval Professeure Paule Halley, Faculté de droit, Université Laval
Professor Winifred Holland, Faculty of Law, University of Western Ontario
Dean Patricia Hughes, Faculty of Law, University of Calgary
Professor Allan Hutchinson, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University
Professor Frederick Innis, Faculty of Law, University of Manitoba Professeur Pierre Issalys, Faculté de droit, Université Laval
Professor Martha Jackman, Faculty of Law, University of Ottawa Professor Richard Janda, Faculty of Law, McGill University
Professor Rebecca Johnson, Faculty of Law, University of Victoria Professor Darlene Johnston, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Larissa Katz, Faculty of Law, Queen’s University
Professeur Pierre-Claude Lafond, Science politique et droit, UQAM Professeur Christelle Landheer-Cieslak, Faculté de droit, Université Laval
Professeure Louise Langevin, Faculté de droit, Université Laval Professeur André Lareau, Faculté de droit, Université Laval Professeure Sophie Lavallée, Faculté de droit, Université Laval Professeure Nicole LaViolette, Common Law, Université d'Ottawa Professeur Sébastien Lebel-Grenier, Faculté de droit, Université de Sherbrooke
Doyen Pierre Lemieux, Faculté de droit, Université Laval
Professor Trudo Lemmens, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professeure Katherine Lippel, Faculté de science politique et de droit, UQAM
Professor Jennifer Llewellyn, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professor A. Wayne MacKay, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professor Patrick Macklem, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Audrey Macklin, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Kathleen Mahoney, Faculty of Law, University of Calgary Professor Carissima Mathen, Faculty of Law, University of New Brunswick
Professor Brian M. Mazer, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professor Heather McLeod-Kilmurray, Faculty of Law, University of Ottawa
Professor Kent McNeil, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University Professor Errol Mendes, Faculty of Law, University of Ottawa Professor Armand de Mestral, Faculty of Law, McGill University Professor Sophia Reibetanz Moreau, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto
Professor Mayo Moran, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professeur Christine Morin, Faculté de droit, Université Laval Professor Ronalda Murphy, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professor Roxanne Mykitiuk, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University
Professor Jennifer Nedelsky, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Ken Norman, College of Law, University of Saskatchewan Professeur Geneviève Parent, Faculté de droit, Université Laval Professor Debra Parkes, Faculty of Law, University of Manitoba Professor Karen Pearlston, Faculty of Law, University of New Brunswick
Professor Steven Penney, Faculty of Law, University of New Brunswick
Professor Lisa Philipps, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University
Dr. Jo-Anne Pickel, Department of Law, Carleton University
Professor Sukanya Pillay, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professor Michael Pratt, Faculty of Law, Queen’s University
Doyen Daniel Proulx, Faculté de droit, Université de Sherbrooke Professor René Provost, Faculty of Law, McGill University
Professor Melanie Randall, Faculty of Law, University of New Brunswick
Professor Denise Réaume, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Arthur Ripstein, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Annie Rochette, Faculty of Law, University of British Columbia
Professor Carol Rogerson, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professeure Louise Rolland, Faculté de droit, Université de Montréal Professeur Alain Roy, Faculté de droit, Université de Montréal Professor Bruce Ryder, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University Professor Teresa Scassa, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professor David Schneiderman, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Jennifer Schulz, Faculty of Law, University of Manitoba Professor Martha Shaffer, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Colleen Sheppard, Faculty of Law, McGill University Professor Barney Sneiderman, Faculty of Law, University of Manitoba Professor Daniel Soberman, Faculty of Law, Queen’s University Professor Lorne Sossin, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor Hamish Stewart, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto Professor James Stribopoulos, Faculty of Law, University of Alberta Professor David Tanovich, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professor Myra J. Tawfik, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professor Lorna Turnbull, Faculty of Law, University of Manitoba Professor Marcia Valiante, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professeur Jean-Pierre Villaggi, Faculté de science politique et de droit, UQAM
Professor Rose Voyvodic, Faculty of Law, University of Windsor Professor Rosemary Cairns Way, Faculty of Law, University of Ottawa Professor Michelle Williams, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professor John A. Yogis, Faculty of Law, Dalhousie University Professor Claire Young, Faculty of Law, University of British Columbia
Professor Margot Young, Faculty of Law, University of British Columbia
Professor Frederick Zemans, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University
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