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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN there's already a thread for your narrow-minded lassez faire (shit, its been so long sice i graduated i've forgotten how to spell it) love interest. libertarians are just as bad as socialists when it comes to their mindless rhetoric. if you actually had ANY experience in how government's worked you would know that they are more than capable of engendering badly needed infrastrucure/planning that the private sector would completely incapable of achieving. you totally missed my comment anyway. goddamn you people are shitting me today. do any of you come up with your own ideas or just parrot meaningless shit that far greater ideologues than yourself have debunked centuries before? its bloody tedious seeing the same, tired catch-phrases that any first year uni student could dismiss. christ.

I'm not advocating laissez-faire. I believe a mixed economy of some regulation, but mostly free market is the best system. The SEC, Treasury Department, FED Reserve all serve a great purpose in protecting the consumer. So don't lump me with laissez-faire.

Really? I did hear that PRIVATE companies were trying to build a super highway right in the middle of Texas. Who do you think builds the infrastructure? It sure ain't state-owned companies. I really don't think you really want to try schoolin me on the economy . Government may fund these projects, but they don't build the roads.

I'm not asking for complete deregulation and laissez faire. I'm advocating against the welfare state, the father-knows-best state, big brother state. You wanna talk about the debunking throughout the centuries. Try to debunk this. The centuries has shown that government time and again fails, throughout history! The greatest of empires have all fell. But those governments that operate on the free-market model have prospered the most, were at war less with other free market countries, and survived the most as the same cohesive government entity. The US, more than any country demonstrates this fact in that it has existed as the same form of government for over 200 years, something no other government can boast today.

I do think for myself, and I ask you to not let the government think for you.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN there's already a thread for your narrow-minded lassez faire (shit, its been so long sice i graduated i've forgotten how to spell it) love interest.

You're lost and I'm sorry for you.

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Originally posted by Krypton I'm not advocating laissez-faire. I believe a mixed economy of some regulation, but mostly free market is the best system. The SEC, Treasury Department, FED Reserve all serve a great purpose in protecting the consumer. So don't lump me with laissez-faire. Really? I did hear that PRIVATE companies were trying to build a super highway right in the middle of Texas. Who do you think builds the infrastructure? It sure ain't state-owned companies. I really don't think you really want to try schoolin me on the economy . Government may fund these projects, but they don't build the roads. I'm not asking for complete deregulation and laissez faire. I'm advocating against the welfare state, the father-knows-best state, big brother state. You wanna talk about the debunking throughout the centuries. Try to debunk this. The centuries has shown that government time and again fails, throughout history! The greatest of empires have all fell. But those governments that operate on the free-market model have prospered the most, were at war less with other free market countries, and survived the most as the same cohesive government entity. The US, more than any country demonstrates this fact in that it has existed as the same form of government for over 200 years, something no other government can boast today. I do think for myself, and I ask you to not let the government think for you.

you're still missing my point. i am not advocating governments per se, just stating that government is a necessary evil.

oh, but since you asked- there have been plenty of state-run enterprises that have built infrastructure ok? so look outside your narrow american experience will you?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN libertarians are just as bad as socialists when it comes to their mindless rhetoric. if you actually had ANY experience in how government's worked you would know that they are more than capable of engendering badly needed infrastrucure/planning that the private sector would completely incapable of achieving.

You know, it's amazing just how many pot holes there are out there on the road, eh?

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Originally posted by Trancer-X You're lost and I'm sorry for you.

Naaaaaah man, pity is a really unnecessary emotion.

It's good that people think differently; keep in mind that we're all from different areas, with different backgrounds and experiences. And we're all always learning as we live life. You know that of course, it doesn't really need said, but I did anyway.

I don't agree with ignorance or fundamentalism of ideas any more than you or the next bloke, as it leads to an inability to be open-minded, but we're all where we are on the path, and will get where we need to be eventually, hopefully.

I think perhaps our friend picked a rather poor role-model to base himself off of, though. Don't get me wrong, Weis and Hickman are great.

peace

nice non sequitur there shibby.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby I think perhaps our friend picked a rather poor role-model to base himself off of, though. Don't get me wrong, Weis and Hickman are great.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN blah blah blah. i think trancer x is a paranoid little child = im obviously ignorant firstly, at no stage did i doubt that the intelligence services conduct various operations like the one you have listed. but i fucking guarantee you there arent CIA operatives regularly surfing dance music websites and engaging paranoid schizos like yourself in these kinds of debates. i mean seriously, grow the fuck up. the government have far more successful and far more efficient ways to get things done than get some spook to log onto a music net forum and argue with the likes of you. stop giving yourself such airs here's another hint: the government do not give a fuck about you trancer. you are meaningless and beneath their concern.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X

are you serious dude?

does this guy "speak to you", for lack of a better term or "speak for you"?

so for you it's basically come down to this guy telling you to refer to certain websites and to assume everyone that disagrees with you is an "agent of disinformation".

EDIT> i'm tired of being mean to you for this stuff. whatever gets you off man.

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Originally posted by Q5echo are you serious dude? does this guy "speak to you", for lack of a better term or "speak for you"? so for you it's basically come down to this guy telling you to refer to certain websites and to assume everyone that disagrees with you is an "agent of disinformation". EDIT> i'm tired of being mean to you for this stuff. whatever gets you off man.

You can twist it however you want, sleazy. I just find it funny how you guys are seldom able to actually talk about the topic at hand but instead have to focus on other people and topics which are totally irrelevant.

You can rest assured that I think for myself

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Originally posted by Trancer-X You can twist it however you want, sleazy. I just find it funny how you guys are seldom able to actually talk about the topic at hand but instead have to focus on other people and topics which are totally irrelevant. You can rest assured that I think for myself

no as with the rest of your tin foil hat clan, youtube and google videos does your thinking for you, you just copy and paste your inane rhetoric all over these forums.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by Trancer-X You can rest assured that I think for myself

no. no i can't.

your last post pretty much convinced me of that.

you should delete it then i'll revert back to giving you the benefit of the doubt again.

/string of baseless and useless personal attacks