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Originally posted by placebo You got me. Congrats. At least I don't take everything documents and witnesses say as fact. Listen to what you're saying, repeat it to yourself, and ask yourself do you actually believe that.

Yes.

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Do you actually think the US Government would blow up the WTC?

Yes.

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If you do, you're right up there with the rest of the tin-foil hat squad. Believe what you want to believe, but I'm sticking with what I believe--that all of those conspiracy theories are complete bullshit, the terrorist attacks were just that, TERRORIST attacks.

the thought that they were TERRORIST ATTACKS is complete bullshit. watch the movie. stop being so fucking closed-minded!!

THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM
THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM
THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM
THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM
THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM

what part of that doesn't register in your measly little head?!

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You Can't Spell Hemorrhoids Without Emo. says:
i drank 14 bottles of it at my student union and dropkicked the projector image of a football manager that i thought was the real football manager. Went right through the screen.
.: Aureus :. says:
that is quite possibly the coolest fucking thing i have heard in my entire life

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Originally posted by dcougar99 now this is an informed post! I believed everything i heard about 911 up until they passed the patriot act... i started to look into how this would "protect" us yeah right... then i started hardcore research and found all this shit that was very hard to except. its not a pretty picture and took sometime to deprogram what I have been told by the mainstream media etc. talk about a wakeup call!!! just research Operation Northwoods and you’ll see... the gov planed to attack ourselves as a pretext to attack Cuba. and was approved all the way up to the top of the military!

I think alot of people misunderstood me--of course there were coverups, mistakes, inconsistencies--that happens with every majour disaster like that. I don't agree with the Patriot Act, the NSA Wire-Tapping, the war in Iraq. But I also don't agree that the US Government would blow up the WTC. Sure, you can ALWAYS find a motive, and you can ALWAYS find a conspiracy. You would think that with EVERYONE involved with something like that, and saying the mass-media is involved too, that something would leak? People don't keep their mouths shut.

If you want motive, it would be about oil. That was why Bush used the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to invade Iraq. From the beginning it was about Oil. It's always about Oil. Money doesn't make the world go round, Oil does.

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Originally posted by placebo I don't agree with the Patriot Act, the NSA Wire-Tapping, the war in Iraq. But I also don't agree that the US Government would blow up the WTC. Sure, you can ALWAYS find a motive, and you can ALWAYS find a conspiracy. You would think that with EVERYONE involved with something like that, and saying the mass-media is involved too, that something would leak? People don't keep their mouths shut. If you want motive, it would be about oil. That was why Bush used the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to invade Iraq. From the beginning it was about Oil. It's always about Oil. Money doesn't make the world go round, Oil does.

oil = money .. duhhrrrrrrrrrrrrr

conn-ect-the-dots

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Originally posted by placebo I think alot of people misunderstood me--of course there were coverups, mistakes, inconsistencies--that happens with every majour disaster like that.

uhh.... what?

/leaves thread out of frustration

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You Can't Spell Hemorrhoids Without Emo. says:
i drank 14 bottles of it at my student union and dropkicked the projector image of a football manager that i thought was the real football manager. Went right through the screen.
.: Aureus :. says:
that is quite possibly the coolest fucking thing i have heard in my entire life

so, placebo, did you research operation northwoods??

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Originally posted by Aureus the thought that they were TERRORIST ATTACKS is complete bullshit. watch the movie. stop being so fucking closed-minded!! THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM THERE IS NO BIAS IN THIS FILM what part of that doesn't register in your measly little head?!

I find it hillariousely ironic how you're bitching about everyone being "closed-minded", but you're by far the most - getting pissed at and insulting anyone who's opinion slightly differs from yours.

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Originally posted by Aquarian I find it hillariousely ironic how you're bitching about everyone being "closed-minded", but you're by far the most - getting pissed at and insulting anyone who's opinion slightly differs from yours.

I know...it's pointless trying to argue my point with that guy. I give up. I did call him a moron though, but the truth hurts sometimes.

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Originally posted by placebo I know...it's pointless trying to argue my point with that guy. I give up. I did call him a moron though, but the truth hurts sometimes.

huh? no one is a moron except the uninformed (ahem...still waiting on your reaction to northwoods...).

and yeah, the truth does hurt, which is why so many people are in denial. "but why would our beloved government do this??"...government = business, they will do anything for $$$...if you were in charge of millions of people, ran the superpower of the world, and was presented with a scheme to make an insane amount of money and gain more control, even at the expense of your citzens dying...would you do it? if not, do you think there are people in the world that would? GEORGE W. BUSH. look at Hitler! just because they are in charge, doesn't mean that they know what is the best. just look at CEO's of major corporations, do they always treat their lower end employees (aka citizens in our case) with respect and dignity, or do they fire them if it's in the best economical interest for the company? yeah...didn't think so. it's called casualties of war.

the most disturbing part of this entire thread...is that only 10 (at most) people have taken part in it. like this would ever reach the amount of pages as our pictures thread has

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Originally posted by Aquarian I find it hillariousely ironic how you're bitching about everyone being "closed-minded", but you're by far the most - getting pissed at and insulting anyone who's opinion slightly differs from yours.

well, if you have those opinions, i respect your right to have them.

it just means you're incredibly uninformed.

and if you choose not to seek out the truth in the matter, then you are ignorant by default.

i've examined all sides of this argument. only one side adds up. NOT YOURS.

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You Can't Spell Hemorrhoids Without Emo. says:
i drank 14 bottles of it at my student union and dropkicked the projector image of a football manager that i thought was the real football manager. Went right through the screen.
.: Aureus :. says:
that is quite possibly the coolest fucking thing i have heard in my entire life

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Originally posted by Aureus well, if you have those opinions, i respect your right to have them. it just means you're incredibly uninformed. and if you choose not to seek out the truth in the matter, then you are ignorant by default. i've examined all sides of this argument. only one side adds up. NOT YOURS.

I didn't give a side. But thanks for proving my point.

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Originally posted by Aquarian I didn't give a side. But thanks for proving my point.

if placebo is agreeing with you, you are guilty by association.

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You Can't Spell Hemorrhoids Without Emo. says:
i drank 14 bottles of it at my student union and dropkicked the projector image of a football manager that i thought was the real football manager. Went right through the screen.
.: Aureus :. says:
that is quite possibly the coolest fucking thing i have heard in my entire life

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Originally posted by Aureus if placebo is agreeing with you, you are guilty by association.

So if someone agrees with a statement I've made - all of their opinions become mine?

While I was just taking a shit i came up with a couple questions regarding 9/11. So since alot of you know alot about 9/11 on both sides, i hope some1 can help.

1. If the govt was behind 9/11 what about all the FBI agents that have gone public about being aware of a terrorist plot against our coutry with airplanes prior to 9/11.? From the agents the terrorists were obviosly planning something. Also if supposedly 9 of the hijackers are still alive, what about the other ones that supposedly died, did they die on the planes.? Also if there is so much evidence to support this, why doenst our enemies like Iran, N. Korea, Venesuaela ect. exploit this to destroy our credibility to the international world.

2. Why was the debris from the WTC's immediately shipped off to another country & destroyed. It was a crime scene of the worst attack on our country in history & it was evidence. Now im not saying the govt did it, but if the govt didnt have anything to hide from the evidence, why did they get rid of it so quickly. I know you can blame it on incompetence but im sure many people in the govt thought during the months it took to remove the debri, thought that maybe we should save this since its extremely important evidence. They knew there was an investigation being planned. Didnt they remember Waco & the front door & video tape of the raid was all of a sudden lost & helped fuel a conspiracy with that. The WTC's werent a door or a small video tape to loose either. That evidence was millions of tons. Also since most politicians were attourneys & know the importance of evidence at a crime scene, why would they let it all get destroyed.? Even if the govt had nothing to hide, the evidence of the WTC's could have been used as examples on how to make high rise steel building stronger & found any weakness's in the WTC's that could have contributed to the buildings collapse. So there could have been much learned.


Just some questions for both side. Now im gonna go run.

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