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Originally posted by pvdAngel I enjoy some rap but I can't see it outliving trance or any other form of EDM.

this comment makes it seriously hard to take you seriously.As much as i fucking hate todays hip hop with a passion, that is so wrong.They control fashion,music,movies,everything.80% of white americans want to be black and have bling bling.Come on now, not even tiesto or pvd has the following or gross income of mediocre rappers.

rap is already older than trance and much more popular world wide.

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Originally posted by pvdAngel I enjoy some rap but I can't see it outliving trance or any other form of EDM.

theyre pretty much in the same boat now. the popular stuff is shit but theres still some less known quality stuff out there.

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Originally posted by all-nite-freak this comment makes it seriously hard to take you seriously.As much as i fucking hate todays hip hop with a passion, that is so wrong.They control fashion,music,movies,everything.80% of white americans want to be black and have bling bling.Come on now, not even tiesto or pvd has the following or gross income of mediocre rappers. rap is already older than trance and much more popular world wide.

I meant that I enjoy some of it in the sense of music alone. I despise the fact that it's so fucking commercial and it's there wherever you go.

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Originally posted by RapidFire theyre pretty much in the same boat now. the popular stuff is shit but theres still some less known quality stuff out there.

Quote from PVD: "95% of trance music is bullshit"

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Originally posted by pvdAngel Quote from PVD: "95% of what i say is bullshit...ill do another bump now thanks"

At least I didn't get a warning from Neo for speaking bullshit ...

backatcha!!

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Originally posted by pvdAngel Quote from PVD: "95% of trance music is bullshit"

too bad hes contributing to that bullshit now

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Originally posted by RapidFire too bad hes contributing to that bullshit now

How's that?

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Originally posted by RapidFire theyre pretty much in the same boat now. the popular stuff is shit but theres still some less known quality stuff out there.

anything that comes out on ninjatune pwns the fuck out of any fake ass raper today.

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Originally posted by pvdAngel How's that?

you cant tell me The Other Side and Reflections (with the exception of Connected and Crush) are anywhere near his old stuff. same goes for his mix CDs. TPOD 2 is a huge dissapointment when compared to TPOD 1.

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Originally posted by RapidFire you cant tell me The Other Side and Reflections (with the exception of Connected and Crush) are anywhere near his old stuff. same goes for his mix CDs. TPOD 2 is a huge dissapointment when compared to TPOD 1.

Yeah, I have noticed a change in his style, despite the fact that the new technology he's using has revolutionised EDM a bit. I do still listen to his older stuff more (actually I quite like the Deep Dish mix of The Other Side tho) and as I said earlier, he was more original between 1998-2001. So even though, I'm an ass-kissing fan of him, I agree that he's changed a little. But it could also be his perception on the trance scene. He's says that most of it is bullshit and there are only a handfull of quality artists both new and old. Maybe that makes it difficult for him to choose good tunes for his sets, but it's up to him how he wants to do it really.

If he does anything that's really dodgy, cheesy or commerical and it doesn't have a positive or influential impact, then I'll question him.

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Paul van Dyk is a far more better producer then tiesto will ever be.