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Originally posted by MKpacha jinx.

Ryan, ryan, ryan!

How are we gonna go without Ryan talking about ducks quacking and toothpaste locations?

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur It'd be the same with alcohol if alcohol was illegal and made in someone's basement.

yes, but its not...this is the stupidest discussion I've ever been in, obviousely any substance abuse is bad for you, but the comparison of drinking till you shit your pants and taking one pill is a little one sided. If you're gonna compare booze to pills, then compare one pill to one drink, or compare getting shitfaced to doing 5 or 6 pills. In either case, pills are worse, plain and simple.

As for buying from a "reliable" source...again, dealers aren't in it for you to have a good time, they want your money..thats it...if they have good pills, then good for you....but if they had bad pills, guess what?..they'd still sell them to you.

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1. Buying pills off a dealer outside of a club isn't necessarily better than buying pills off a dealer inside a club. I haven't heard of any dealers who will always give you a good pill. Why? There are lots of shit pills going around these days, and dealers get them too. They're not going to absorb the cost to be a nice guy.

2. Pill testing kits don't tell you what's in the pill. It's not like you put the pill in the kit and it gives you a list of all the different chemicals in there. This is how it works:

No color change
If there is no color change, the pill does not contain noticeable quantities of MDMA (ecstasy), MDE, MDA, 2C-B, DOM, DOB, DXM, methamphetamine, or amphetamine.
Dark Purple / Black
Black or very dark purple/blue most often indicates either the presence of an ecstasy like substance (MDMA, MDE, or MDA), DXM, or opiates. It is possible to differentiate between DXM and the ecstasy like substances based on the period of time it takes for the reagent to turn black.

No color change
If there is no color change, the pill does not contain noticeable quantities of MDMA (ecstasy), MDE, MDA, 2C-B, DOM, DOB, DXM, methamphetamine, or amphetamine.

Dark Grey
DXM will emit a small amount of smoke first, then turn the reagent black after 5-10 seconds. Ecstasy-like substances may emit a tiny bit of smoke (generally not as much as DXM) and will begin turning color immediately.

Bright Yellow / Green
Indicates the presence of 2C-B, DOM, or DOB.

Bright Orange
Indicates the presence of Speed, Methamphetamine, or Amphetamine.

Other Colors
If the reagent turns some other color, it is an indication that the pill does not contain ecstasy, or any of the above substances, but DOES contain some other unknown, possibly dangerous chemical. See below.

3. If you want information about E, go to the Ecstasy Discussion Forums on www.bluelight.nu and look at the MDMA essential guide. That has way more information than you will get here.

I can't stand drunk people. Most of the time they act and look much more stupid and agressive than someone who is no E.

Oh and girls do it better when they are on E

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Originally posted by AC-Milan Oh and girls do it better when they are on E

sex - yes.

blowjob - no (re: the grind)

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Originally posted by MaxTO that's easy to say if you've been in the scene for awhile, or were fortunate enough to have friends with reliable sources. I'm assuming for a number of party-goers though, goods are still acquired inside the club.

Yes, however, I was speaking to Lisa and she is one of the fortunate.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

You could always check out www.pillreports.com

You can put in your location and the colour/stamp of the pill you have and hopefully something comes up. There are a lot of pills that aren't on that site, as it's up to ectasy users to post and update the reports. But there's always a chance you may find the pill you have.

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Originally posted by Floorwhore blowjob - no (re: the grind)

JESUS FUCK

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 JESUS FUCK

true story.

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Originally posted by 5hiftn6ears yes, but its not...this is the stupidest discussion I've ever been in, obviousely any substance abuse is bad for you, but the comparison of drinking till you shit your pants and taking one pill is a little one sided. If you're gonna compare booze to pills, then compare one pill to one drink, or compare getting shitfaced to doing 5 or 6 pills. In either case, pills are worse, plain and simple.

Not really. Lots of people can get fucked up on 1 pill but not on 1 drink and therefore people will always drink more than people will pop.

Its like comparing a 30 ml shot of vodka to a 30 ml of beer in order to prove which fucks you up more.

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Originally posted by raveed Not really. Lots of people can get fucked up on 1 pill but not on 1 drink and therefore people will always drink more than people will pop. Its like comparing a 30 ml shot of vodka to a 30 ml of beer in order to prove which fucks you up more.

Agreed, you need to compare standard doseages.
And since there is no standard doseage of E because it's not a regulated substance, the whole discussion is pointless.

.. and never mix poppers with alcohol, it fucks your high ..

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