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Floorfiller
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Illegal Pete's

blake nice posts in this thread....


one thing i saw you say though...the whole track warping thing. do you really think it's a steeper learning curve? i mean i pretty much could warp a track no problem...i guess i have had a little experience with sound forge and similar programs, which i think helps, but really it's not that difficult. at the same time...my beatmatching is pretty crap since i've never really had time to practice it. i understand the theory of it and everything, but it's still i think harder to learn to beatmatch...then to warp a track in ableton i dunno...

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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
blake nice posts in this thread....


one thing i saw you say though...the whole track warping thing. do you really think it's a steeper learning curve? i mean i pretty much could warp a track no problem...i guess i have had a little experience with sound forge and similar programs, which i think helps, but really it's not that difficult. at the same time...my beatmatching is pretty crap since i've never really had time to practice it. i understand the theory of it and everything, but it's still i think harder to learn to beatmatch...then to warp a track in ableton i dunno...



I think you are right.


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Blake_Jarrell
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i meant more the initial learning curve, not the "oh i get it now" and everything there after. certainly vinyl or cd beatmatching has a longer tail of difficulty to some after learning the premise of it, but i dont think this holds true to most djs. but i would defintely say the initial premise of beginning an audio program and the nuances of its independant features and engines is much more daunting than listening to a record in headphones and pushing it along, wouldnt you agree?


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Floorfiller
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i meant more the initial learning curve, not the "oh i get it now" and everything there after. certainly vinyl or cd beatmatching has a longer tail of difficulty after learning the premise of it. but i would defintely say the initial premise of beginning an audio program and the nuances of its independant features and engines is much more daunting than listening to a record in headphones and pushing it along, wouldnt you agree?



yeah i can agree to that.

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Blake_Jarrell
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cover of computer music magazine this month:

John Digweed: "Vinyl wont last another year"


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quote:
Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
i meant more the initial learning curve, not the "oh i get it now" and everything there after. certainly vinyl or cd beatmatching has a longer tail of difficulty to some after learning the premise of it, but i dont think this holds true to most djs. but i would defintely say the initial premise of beginning an audio program and the nuances of its independant features and engines is much more daunting than listening to a record in headphones and pushing it along, wouldnt you agree?


Yeah, that's a good call actually- I read a book about this sort of development in our society. People are actually getting smarter and are able to do more complex things- People are into more complex television shows, computers offer an amazingly higher amount of complexity and availability than anything has before...

Lemme try and find the book, it was a great read.


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The Sleeper Curve is what he calls the human race's growing intelligence.

Everything Bad Is Good for You:
How Today's Popular Culture Is Actually Making Us Smarter

By: Steven Johnson


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/15...ie=UTF8&s=books


I think you could easily relate the findings in this book to DJing.


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Blake_Jarrell
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The Sleeper Curve is what he calls the human race's growing intelligence.

Everything Bad Is Good for You:
How Today's Popular Culture Is Actually Making Us Smarter

By: Steven Johnson


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/15...ie=UTF8&s=books


I think you could easily relate the findings in this book to DJing.


sounds interesting

ill read that when i get back from being a flyer bitch tonight


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Allied Nations
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sounds interesting

ill read that when i get back from being a flyer bitch tonight



Lol, basically it just proves how our society is becoming more and more attracted to more complex things that aren't just books- we are able to process more information and like doing so.


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Registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL

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Lol, basically it just proves how our society is becoming more and more attracted to more complex things that aren't just books- we are able to process more information and like doing so.


so the future is mixing 3,4,endless number of tracks together at once, mixing dj tool tracks/loops to build new songs on the fly. this is more complex than simple traditional track to track transitions. so we as djs are adapting to the complexity and are becoming more intelligent. we're becoming more like musicians.


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iammesol
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Atlanta, USA

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yeah i can agree to that.


Remember that a lot of people (especially most DJs who are using tts still) are NOT computer literate. Computers are easy to operate for us... but they're a whole different ballgame for most people.

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Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell
cover of computer music magazine this month:

John Digweed: "Vinyl wont last another year"


and how many years have people been saying that for lol


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