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Groundhog Boy
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Registered: May 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
For those who want to slate him, I say go to his live show and see how the crowd interacts with him and how he interacts back.

I'm sorry, but elicting a crowd reaction is not a reflection of talent. The crowd interacted well with the performer in the video below. Does that mean he's good, too?


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Old Post Aug-25-2006 20:41  United States
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Mr.Mystery
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Notice in my original statement, towards the end, it said 'unlike other 'top' djs'. I wasn't comparing him to tons and tons of other producers, just the top guys that built their name from essentially exploiting others.

Noted.


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DOOMBOT
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quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I'm sorry, but elicting a crowd reaction is not a reflection of talent. The crowd interacted well with the performer in the video below. Does that mean he's good, too?


Sorry, I can't watch that video while I am at work.

Anyway, when going to see a dj live have great crowd interaction is a part of the game. Especially with trance and its big break downs. So yeah, in that part of djing, he is great. And he is also a great mixer as well. Personally, I and a lot of others like his style, where it sounds like one track is fading in and out of another track so it blends beautifuly as one. Sure, for those who are there to criticize it gets a bit repetitive but for the 90% that are there to have fun and dance their asses off, it simply works.

I'm not going to sit here and say he is the best technical dj out there, because he is not. I have already witnessed local talent that no one has ever heard of that would make even John Digweeds eyes pop out of their sockets. But I'm also not going to be ignorant to the fact that the guy is a great thing for this scene as a whole. If those who want to play negative towards it want to do that, whatever but obviously their opinions aren't holding weight either. And I think there is a reason for that.

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armin has no element of suprise. There isn't a single track that he plays that has a 'wow factor'.


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armin has no element of suprise. There isn't a single track that he plays that has a 'wow factor'.

Tell that to my girlfriend who said "Wow this track is awesome!" on July 8th!

Thanks to Sean Tyas - Lift.

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Tell that to my girlfriend who said "Wow this track is awesome!" on July 8th!

Thanks to Sean Tyas - Lift.


i don't belive it was much of a suprise, or anything out of the ordinary... was it?

from what i remember of it its like most of his tracks/the discover tracks(o'call etc), and isnt much different from the rest of the stuff armin plays.


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i don't belive it was much of a suprise, or anything out of the ordinary... was it?

from what i remember of it its like most of his tracks/the discover tracks(o'call etc), and isnt much different from the rest of the stuff armin plays.

That was the first time I had ever heard Lift as well, and it "wow'ed" me. It's tough sometimes to not be ignorant to the fact that even people who love trance just as much as you aren't looking for the latest and greatest every chance that they get and sometimes don't notice those killer tracks until they finally go to the club to see a dj spin. Everyone on TA is a minority to the majority of people who listen to EDM.

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heh, i really don't get the wow factor behind 'lift' at all, and i've heard it at least 4 or 5 times out in a club. there's nothing particularly wrong with it but i just doesn't think it stands out at all.. 'exactly' is a much stronger tune in a similar vein/same label

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quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
That was the first time I had ever heard Lift as well, and it "wow'ed" me. It's tough sometimes to not be ignorant to the fact that even people who love trance just as much as you aren't looking for the latest and greatest every chance that they get and sometimes don't notice those killer tracks until they finally go to the club to see a dj spin. Everyone on TA is a minority to the majority of people who listen to EDM.


exactly, armin is always after the newest track, weather its that great or not doesnt really matter to him.

A lot of the wow factor comes from the arrangement and set up of tracks. but you listen to digweed so you probably notice this. Armin just doesn't do it that well imo.


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exactly, armin is always after the newest track, weather its that great or not doesnt really matter to him.


I also think that the policy of the ASOT label is strictly about quantity over quality. This is actually what happened to italo-disco when it morphed into "nu-NRG" in mid-80s. The overall quality level of the genre is usually lost into a sea of uninspired,repeatitive,non-creative releases. This in turn affects new producers (especially young producers) who copy what they hear(especially when the majority of what they hear has a considearble low level). When i listened to "Nexus Asia" by vincent de moor (ASOT's 1st release), i thought that great things gonna come form the epic trance side of things and the new fresh "ASOT-Label". Unfortunately,in the end of the day, what i thought of as trance's "messiah" and "great unificator"(and yes, maybe it was in the beginning and up to a certain point) had proven(always IMO ) to be it's "evil tyrrant".

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Originally posted by sandstorm03
exactly, armin is always after the newest track, weather its that great or not doesnt really matter to him.

A lot of the wow factor comes from the arrangement and set up of tracks. but you listen to digweed so you probably notice this. Armin just doesn't do it that well imo.

I'm not going to compare Armin to Digweed in a sense of "arrangement and set up of tracks" because there simply is no comparison.

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