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pvdclubber
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Sheffield
Re: DJ's who whore their own productions and DJ's who don't

quote:
Originally posted by luisjb82
Hola hola...

So I've been wondering what DJ's are oftenly known as playing to death their own productions perhaps leading to their much quicker fade out and also whoring the tunes from their own labels.

And what about those DJ's who do exactly the opposite, mainly being DJ's instead of producers and focus on playing the best music around regardless of labels/friendships, etc etc.


a good dj plays the sound and music he likes,

one would assume he makes tunes that define his sound, thus playing them out often defines his sound.

have you ever produced music? if i worked on a track for 3 weeks and was really proud of it i would play it out very often.

plus just because you get to listen to a new tiesto set every week and get bored of listening to similar tunes, this does not diminish the average clubbers club night experience.

if i only went to one tiesto event per year i' like to hear some classics.

djs tour all over the world,

i.e. if pvd went to shanghai, there is a very high probability that many people have never seen pvd live before.

don't you think some of them clubbers would be thrilled to hear for an angel played by it's creator.

only in the last 3-4 years have internet speeds permitted rapid access to sets,

when i got into trance heavily in 1999, radio was pretty much the only place to hear new stuff,

a new ferry set every 2 months was a great acheivement,

the tracklist had by then rotated substantially, so we never really experienced djs whoring the same tracks mainly their own all the time

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Ishkur
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

The best DJs in the world have up to 500,000 records.

500,000!

If a DJ is really putting a lot of effort into being the tip-top pinnacle of his profession--like, say, someone considered #1--then it doesn't matter if you listen to a new set of his once a week or ten times a week, you really shouldn't hear the same song twice from him in any inordinate amount of time (if he's doing his job correctly, with the connections he has and the records he obtains).

If, on the other hand, all you hear are his own productions and his friends/labels productions 10 times a week, then what you're bearing witness to is not a DJ, but a spamwhore.

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thesuperfunk
On Track



Registered: Aug 2001
Location: UK

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
The best DJs in the world have up to 500,000 records.

500,000!



where do you read this shit?

Old Post Aug-27-2006 10:21  England
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Psy-T
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
The best DJs in the world have up to 500,000 records.

500,000!

If a DJ is really putting a lot of effort into being the tip-top pinnacle of his profession--like, say, someone considered #1--then it doesn't matter if you listen to a new set of his once a week or ten times a week, you really shouldn't hear the same song twice from him in any inordinate amount of time (if he's doing his job correctly, with the connections he has and the records he obtains).

If, on the other hand, all you hear are his own productions and his friends/labels productions 10 times a week, then what you're bearing witness to is not a DJ, but a spamwhore.


hey, don't forget there are exceptions (think Ron Hardy and 'his' Acid Tracks)


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Ishkur
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

quote:
Originally posted by thesuperfunk
where do you read this shit?


Not read--saw. The movie Scratch. Go see. Who was it that was sitting in his basement, with the records piled around him? I think it was DJ Krush ...there was literally about 700,000 records in that room. Piled 12 feet high. Z-Trip has about 400,000 records. They all have gargantuan numbers of records.

At this point, they aren't really DJs insomuch as they are musical archeologists...they hunt the nooks and crannies of the hobby shops, the obscure labels, the bargain bins, the record pools, the invite-only mailing lists, to become part of an inner circle that does nothing but lives and breathes music, each one of them a living encyclopedia of the entire history of recorded music, going all the way back to the 40s when the first 45s were released.....the old 7 inch singles.

Does not Tiesto do that? Would not the best DJs in the world do that? Is that not why they became DJs in the first place? ...because of their seemingly obsessive-compulse love for music?

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zoric
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Registered: Mar 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Demoted
lol

Ferry Mayday 01-05-2006

01. Ferry Corsten & Ramin Djawadi - Prison Break Theme (Ferry Corsten Break Out Extended Mix]
02. Ferry Corsten - Galaxia
03. DJ Tatana feat. Joanna - If I Could [Ronski Speed Remix]
04. Ferry Corsten feat. Simon Le Bon - Fire [Ferry Corsten's Flashover Mix]
05. Lange & Gareth Emery - Three
06. Nitrous Oxide - North Pole
07. Ferry Corsten - Beautiful
08. Sander van Doorn - Punk'd [Sean Tyas Remix]
09. Ferry Corsten - Loud, Electronic, Fericious

Ferry Corsten @ The Park 22-07-2006

01. Ferry Corsten - I Love You
02. Ferry Corsten - Beautiful
03. Breakfast - The Storm
04. Sander van Doorn - Dark Roast (2006 Re-Fill)
05. Ferry Corsten - L.E.F.
06. Ferry Corsten - Watch Out! (Extended Mix)
07. Phantom Force - Mind Games
08. ID
09. Mojado - Rezo

Ferry Corsten live @ Sensation White 2006

01. Ferry Corsten - L.E.F (Intro
02. Ferry Corsten - Are You Ready
03. Ferry Corsten Feat. Simon Le Bon - Fire (Ferry Corsten's "Flashover" Mix
04. Ferry Corsten & Ramin Djawadi - Prison Break Theme (Ferry Corsten "Break Out" Extended Mix)
05. Ferry Corsten - Galaxia
06. Ferry Corsten - Beautiful
07. Ferry Corsten - L.E.F
08. Ferry Corsten - Watch Out
09. Ferry Corsten - Cubikated


This is promotion of his album mostly. Unfortunately this sucks when it happens.

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Jordan Stevens
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Las Vegas, Nv

quote:
Originally posted by CraSHer[UK]
ferry is quite partial to the occasional producer set


didnt bother going through the whole post to see what ppl said about htis comment but yes i couldnt agree more. saw him 2 months ago and he only played 2 tracks that werent produced or remixed by him self.


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PutBoy
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Why the f**k not? A guy has to make a living.


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Psy-T
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

quote:
Originally posted by PutBoy
Why the f**k not? A guy has to make a living.


yeah, i'm sure the 'top' dj's would be starving otherwise.


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Ted Promo
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Can this be my goal??!

quote:
Originally posted by PutBoy
Why the f**k not? A guy has to make a living.


For the last time, I don't think we're all necessarily saying it's a bad thing to promote one's self. We're just stating that ones that do it as opposed to others who actually adhere to the traditional dj standards like playing other people's music.

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iammesol
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Atlanta, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Not read--saw. The movie Scratch. Go see. Who was it that was sitting in his basement, with the records piled around him? I think it was DJ Krush ...there was literally about 700,000 records in that room. Piled 12 feet high. Z-Trip has about 400,000 records. They all have gargantuan numbers of records.

At this point, they aren't really DJs insomuch as they are musical archeologists...they hunt the nooks and crannies of the hobby shops, the obscure labels, the bargain bins, the record pools, the invite-only mailing lists, to become part of an inner circle that does nothing but lives and breathes music, each one of them a living encyclopedia of the entire history of recorded music, going all the way back to the 40s when the first 45s were released.....the old 7 inch singles.

Does not Tiesto do that? Would not the best DJs in the world do that? Is that not why they became DJs in the first place? ...because of their seemingly obsessive-compulse love for music?


Ishkur... Top DJs don't have this precious thing called... time to sort through all those.

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Ishkur
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

Yes they do. I just told you who they were!

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