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Cosmic Fur
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lol, you have much to learn


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Old Post Aug-25-2006 18:41  Canada
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who's jon jon?


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beefy k
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note to self- don't post while hungover and at work


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zokissima
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note to self- don't post while hungover and at work

Take that back. You've elicited probably one of the most intelligent discussions this week.

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quote:
Originally posted by beefy k
good question, the audio spectrum explains why we like certain pitches and tones better than others but not their relative spacing and timing in composed sounds.


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Originally posted by beefy k
In this discussion its important to generalize. I'm not saying that there are a (strange) few that like listening to static, all the power to them. Lets keep the sample space large.


The audio spectrum does not explain anything. It refers to mathematical frequencies in which all sound waves must characteristically have.

What explains why we like certain sounds better is our individual minds. Whether man has a tendency to like certain sounds more than others and why is irrelevent*. Why? Because we are not forced to like those better. All there is is a tendency. Nothing more. So no matter how large you make the sample size, the only possible generalization you can make is that all man has their own unique tastes.**

* As far as I know, we like to hear particular sounds because of conditioning. This just goes to demonstrate that there is no objectivity to man liking certain sounds more than others. For example, we may think a certain odor smells bad because growing up, we were told it smells bad.

** Having a large sample space contradicts the fundamental idea of generalizing! No matter how large a sample size is, you are still taking a particular group of people. So is it alright to say that because of 1000 people, 999 like trance, and one likes house, the person who likes house is wrong to like house? As previously stated, the only possible generalization is that people have their own tastes. In other words, the only objective component of musical tastes is the subjectivity that follows from the nature of music.

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Cosmic Fur
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Take that back. You've elicited probably one of the most intelligent discussions this week.


Sadly it went nowhere, but oh well.


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Im diaspointed that pictures not showing up, judging by the name of it, id probably be ammused

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beefy k
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Originally posted by DanR
The audio spectrum does not explain anything. It refers to mathematical frequencies in which all sound waves must characteristically have.

What explains why we like certain sounds better is our individual minds. Whether man has a tendency to like certain sounds more than others and why is irrelevent*. Why? Because we are not forced to like those better. All there is is a tendency. Nothing more. So no matter how large you make the sample size, the only possible generalization you can make is that all man has their own unique tastes.**

* As far as I know, we like to hear particular sounds because of conditioning. This just goes to demonstrate that there is no objectivity to man liking certain sounds more than others. For example, we may think a certain odor smells bad because growing up, we were told it smells bad.

** Having a large sample space contradicts the fundamental idea of generalizing! No matter how large a sample size is, you are still taking a particular group of people. So is it alright to say that because of 1000 people, 999 like trance, and one likes house, the person who likes house is wrong to like house? As previously stated, the only possible generalization is that people have their own tastes. In other words, the only objective component of musical tastes is the subjectivity that follows from the nature of music.


Very well put. However, your odor analogy isn't really fitting because its a survival instint that we have (not to eat or go near things that smell 'bad' to us.


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BAHAHA


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Very well put. However, your odor analogy isn't really fitting because its a survival instint that we have (not to eat or go near things that smell 'bad' to us.


Yea but broccoli smells ****ing nasty to me, some people love it, does that mean my bodys instincts are to not eat brocolli cause its bad for me?

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