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| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
StanVoid told me there were conspiracy theorists down at ground zero today (and now) yelling at families who lost loved ones, teling them to question their government for the truth and all that bla bla crap.
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That is a waste of time - the events we see today were spawned by wheels that were set in motion long ago and I feel the situation has only been exacerbated in the last few years. Money spent fighting the 'war on terror' would've been better directed towards spending money within the USA - for starters maybe better intelligence or proper people heading up FEMA. The downing of the towers was a small victory for the terrorists - everything that followed after Afghanistan was their big victory - the 'fear' and uncertainty that were spread like a cancer through media outlets is still perpetrated today - the fact ultimately hit home that the "nothing can harm us here" attitude was no longer a reality. As US currency loses it value globally combined with the debt as a % of GDP once again approaching record levels, things are not looking too healthy in the long term - that's besides all the increasing amount of foreign investment/ownership - ports, roads and bridges or the memorable failed bid by a state-owned Chinese oil company to grab a hold of Chevron. Of course, this is all pointless, since it's more newsworthy for CNN to talk about Mel Gibson for 3 days or put together news segments suggesting potential places for terrorist attacks - you know - Power generating plants, subways,buses, railroad lines, cruise ships, ferrys, airports, shopping centres (Forward to 1:53 into the clip to see for yourself)
| quote: | Originally posted by SebG
It really doesnt matter now if Osama Bin Laden is caught now or not. What matters is destroying the little cells that keep poping up. Destroying everything that has to do with jihad, terrorists and other fucked up things. |
| quote: | Originally posted by koky69
Once their master is gone , Trust me it will slow down . It will unfortunately never be gone completely . But it would be slowed down if their main leader is destroyed. |
The targetting of leaders only serves to further their terrorist reach - as those that have fallen become martyrs to their cause. You can't view killing them all off one by one as a solution since the true extremists do not see death as something to avoid, but rather, as a valiant way to go out serving their twisted beliefs. When you fight an ideology with another you can never win unless everyone succumbs to yours -- and we see how well that has worked with communism (sarcasm). A recent example is what happened in Lebanon -- did Israel gain any ground by bombing Lebanon or did they just make things worse by drumming up support for Hezbollah by those that were once indifferent?
It is in human nature to side with that which you are familiar - the conspiracy theorists believe their side of the story, others believe the official/mainstream media story - a divide exists that is not easily crossed with either side refusing to see any merit in the other. In much the same way, the stigma some Americans attach to all those that appear Muslim and/or of Middle Eastern descent can largely be blamed on the media and the scare tactics in the weeks/months following 9/11.
For many the USA was increasingly gaining ground in the past decades as a leader in freedom, human rights, etc. amongst its citizens and in foreign policy efforts. However, things like the Patriot Act and imprisoning people without charging them with anything seems like fiction - "it couldn't happen here." Now when everyday citizens question the government, raise questions regarding 9/11 or debate the purpose of the Iraq War they're seen as lacking patriotism or not supporting the troops.
R.I.P. to all the people who died 5 years ago and to those that have died since then abroad - as well as to the others who lost some of the freedoms they once enjoyed solely to protect them from an event that may never happen.
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