i was about to put my car for sale when i got back from europe. while i was doing the research, my engine gave up.

viva bus ftw

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar U gotta commute far to work?

I average around 120/day, plus coming to the city almost every weekend, day trips/trips to the cottage...etc

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Just wanted to add my 2 cents in here. If you realistically are giving up your car remember that the Go transit is another alternative to get you around town, especially the outer areas. It's a lot cleaner and honestly the people that take it are a lot less scary than the TTC folk. It's a bit more expensive but well worth it if it's convenient and will save you time.

Also, if you ever need a car there are always weekend specials too for renting a car. We did that for a bit when we were between cities and then settled on our gas guzzler which I wouldn't give up for anything. I didn't really drive until I was 25 and have absolutely no regrets. You just get used to taking public transit and at least you never have to worry about if you are drinking and driving.

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Around Collingwood, I have never really needed to own a vehicle, bc Ive always in the past been able to bike anywhere or walk, and simply got used to walking most the time. I could usually borrow my mom's van if I really needed a vehicle for some reason around town. And Ive always had friends up here that do drive, so if ever we wanted to go mall shopping or check a movie in Barrie or whatever, one of them was always up for it.

Not owning a vehicle in Cwood wasnt a big deal at all for me.

When I lived in Waterloo, I bused everywhere or walked. I got used to it quickly.

For 3 years Ive freakin Greyhound'ed it to TO and back every weekend that I'd come down - now THAT truly was a pain in my ass... 3 hours getting down there, and looking at like 4+ to get back home Sunday afternoon/night. And it would cost me $70-$75 for a damn round trip for the weekend! I DONT for a second regret having to deal w/ this process. I simply live to far away from the city, and thus Greyhound was my only choice.

Now that I own my own Toyota, god, I cant imagine not having this freedom, its wonderful, but I can see where you're coming from certianly. $1,000 bones a month is A LOT. My vehicle being new, I dont have the repairs costs that must be costing u a fortune, same w/ the insurance :S

I can tell you, I only recently bought a car bc I turned 25 and my insurance rates dropped by over 1/2! I wasnt willing to own a car and pay the rates I would have had to before I turned 25.

Sad to hear you'll hafta get rid of your car Jeff. I cant imagine doing that now myself.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Gals get bfs to drive them around.

What I said still stands. Regardless of the ways girls get to go places...

Picture your typical young guy (20-25y)

A. if he lives at home. Then:
* to be social, he needs to get places (fast)
* to have a girlfriend, to go out with her, to do something, he probably needs to drive
* getting to work _may_ require a car
... on and on - bonus if a guy gets to use parents' car. otherwise shit out of luck.

B. if he lives by himself.
* everything I've mentioned above, and in addition:
* get around to get groceries
* go to the dentist
* go to a clinic (if need be)
* go shopping for _anything at all_
and that's in addition to NOT being able to use parents' car...

Any way you put it, getting around Toronto is HARD if you don't have a car, and don't live downtown.


EDIT: don't know how it is for girls.. probably pretty much the same. BUT it is expected that the man picks up a girl and drops her off, not the other way around.

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Originally posted by Superstring * go to the dentist

Yes, a totally valid point.

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Originally posted by jon jon Yes, a totally valid point.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker There is NO SUBSTITUTE for having a car - I don't care what anybody says. No offense to those who don't have cars - but most of the "no need for car" people are those who haven't consistently had one to begin with.

If you live and work downtown then having a car is an option (especially with zipcars) but you are commuting to the airport...DON'T DO IT.

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I'd rather be shot with a harpoon gun than live without a car for an extended period of time

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 I'd rather be shot with a harpoon gun than live without a car for an extended period of time

whut about stung in the heart by a stingray?

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