yikes!

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Originally posted by Arbiter What I find most amusing about this is that it doesn't seem consistent with the "free will" doctrine that religious nutbags always use to defend the fact that this sort of thing even happens. I mean, if the terrorists have free will... then they still have the ability to call off whatever plans they might or might not be making. So God can't really know whether or not they're going to go through with it, much less tell anybody. In order for God to know, it would have to already be determined, in which case the terrorists don't have free will and sole responsibility for the attacks is God's.

+1 and this made me laugh:

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"I have a relatively good track record," he said. "Sometimes I miss."

You, Pat, or God?

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by Clovis You, Pat, or God?

that's a good point. Pat is talking about himself there, and it's funny how he says that he misses sometimes. Well, if he talks to God, everytime he says he predicts something - that means he heard it from God. So if he misses, that means God missed Maybe Pat's channel of communication with God gets cloudy sometimes and he hears things wrong

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Originally posted by StanVoid that's a good point. Pat is talking about himself there, and it's funny how he says that he misses sometimes. Well, if he talks to God, everytime he says he predicts something - that means he heard it from God. So if he misses, that means God missed Maybe Pat's channel of communication with God gets cloudy sometimes and he hears things wrong

Either way the guy is one of the biggest jokes in America...

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by StanVoid that's a good point. Pat is talking about himself there, and it's funny how he says that he misses sometimes. Well, if he talks to God, everytime he says he predicts something - that means he heard it from God. So if he misses, that means God missed Maybe Pat's channel of communication with God gets cloudy sometimes and he hears things wrong

perhaps the aerial in his brain needs a signal booster fitting

pat robertson is an evil little bitch

he thinks that gay people cause tornados

he will be so shocked when he ends up in hell

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Originally posted by Sweet Death he will be so shocked when he ends up in hell

How do you shock a guy?

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is he serial?

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...known from a videotape the two made when they met in March... in Dresdens home, Dresden amputated Gabriels penis and Dresden and Gabriel ate the penis together...Gabriel had insisted that Dresden bite his penis off; this did not work.. Dresden used a knife. When that knife turned out to be too blunt, Dresden used a sharper knife to slice the penis off. Gabriel apparently tried to eat his share of his own penis..but could not because it was too..."chewy". Dresden then sautéed the penis in a pan with salt, pepper, and garlic.

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Originally posted by Arbiter What I find most amusing about this is that it doesn't seem consistent with the "free will" doctrine that religious nutbags always use to defend the fact that this sort of thing even happens. I mean, if the terrorists have free will... then they still have the ability to call off whatever plans they might or might not be making. So God can't really know whether or not they're going to go through with it, much less tell anybody. In order for God to know, it would have to already be determined, in which case the terrorists don't have free will and sole responsibility for the attacks is God's.

so are you saying god cant see into the future just because we have free will?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN so are you saying god cant see into the future just because we have free will?

Yep.

I think he is saying that omniscience cannot exist in a world that is indeterministic, which is true.