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Omega_M
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Go Kimi !!!1

Mclaren needs to deliver consistently over the next few races for Alonso to seriously challenge Ferrari.


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Rockabye
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KIMI OWNZ THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Old Post Mar-18-2007 10:10  Finland
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The ICEMAN has delivered, a well driven win for him and Ferrari. This looks like a good start to an yet another exciting season. Also worth mentioning Hamilton and the pace of the BMW's (dark horse this yr)


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Timothy
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Lewis Hamilton is really good, he was quite capable to fight against double world champion Fernando Alonso driving the same car. Although it's too early to tell, think he might be a world champion someday.


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Boring race, but a good one nonetheless.

Kimi walked away from everybody, including Massa (even though Massa was stuck behind the Honda's for most of the race).

Button should have let Rubens past early on. He was holding them both up and once Rubens got past he was 2s / lap faster. Stupid.

Great mature drive from Hamilton. He kept his shit together even while leading in his first ever race. Alonso only passed him in the pits. I don't think he was fast enough to actually pass Lewis on the track!!! This kid will be champion, it's only a matter of time. Good for McLaren to bring both cars home too, given their shite reliability from last year.

BMW will be 3rd this year after a close race with Renault. I'm calling it now. BMW looked very good (not sure what happenned to Kubica though since I was watching the race in Dutch ).

Bernie needs to figure out how to get some passing back into F1 since there wasn't much of it at all here. You could see cars getting out of shape mid-corner when they got within .5s of eachother. How can you expect to get a good run on a guy when you can't get closer than .5s and there is now a 19k rev limit and an engine freeze from last year (so no newfound power)???

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reduce winged downforce will go a long way to improving overtaking. When you're 0.5 seconds behind a car the turbulance coming off the car in front robs your wings of downforce, hence you have no grip. Reduce the downforce, reduce the turbulence should give the car behind effecitvely more grip (effectively because they too are relying on less downforce grip) letting them race closer and overtake easier (in theory)

Heard a few times over the weekend (including from Bernie who proudly said it was his idea) that he wants night races. If they can race at night (he was saying 8pmish) in the Asia/Pacific region it would give better viewing times in Europe and prime-time in those regions. He says it'd be only for Asia and Australia though.
Problem would be improving lighting enough to allow it though. I think its a pretty crappy idea


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Old Post Mar-18-2007 11:45  Australia
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pmoisse
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reduce downforce will go a long way to improving overtaking. When you're 0.5 seconds behind a car the turbulance coming off the car in front robs your wings of downforce, hence you have no grip. Reduce the downforce, reduce the turbulence should give the car behind effecitvely more grip (effectively because they too are relying on less downforce grip) letting them race closer and overtake easier (in theory)

Heard a few times over the weekend (including from Bernie who proudly said it was his idea) that he wants night races. If they can race at night (he was saying 8pmish) in the Asia/Pacific region it would give better viewing times in Europe and prime-time in those regions. He says it'd be only for Asia and Australia though.
Problem would be improving lighting enough to allow it though. I think its a pretty crappy idea


But reducing downforce without adding any grip elsewhere (softer tyres, tunnel bottoms etc) will only leave the same gap just at slower speeds. They need to put something back. They need non-turbulent downforce (tunnel bottoms) and slick tyres. The racing in the 80's and early 90's was nice, cut & thrust stuff.

"They're going at it hammer & tongs!!!" - Murray Walker. There hasn't been this kind of excitement and passing duels in a couple years.

They had slicks and more liberal tunnel-bottom/ground effect rules to work within.

Currently, there isn't a way to add grip of any kind without slowing the car down in a straight line. I know that's the #1 trade-off in racing, but with a 19k rev limit, power has been reduced which will likely mean teams are always going to set their cars up for straightline speed. Otherwise, it gives away more advantage than it creates in the corners.

As far as night races go, it would be a fun, one-off gimmick, but that's about it. If they want to do night races, they should use tintops. WTCC or DTM would be great at night...especially DTM with the amount of fire they shoot under braking. The F1 cars would look stupid with lights added whereas a tintop already has spots where they would otherwise go on the road-car equivalent.

F1 is really starting to lose me. I'll still watch, but it's becomming closer to just another spec series.

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(not sure what happenned to Kubica though since I was watching the race in Dutch ).


Kubica had gearbox problems, he was stuck with gear 5.


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happy for kimmi.. not happy for ferrari.. grrr mclaren what happened


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best result mclaren will get this season

i expected both of them to have some kind of failure in the last lap

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best result mclaren will get this season

i expected both of them to have some kind of failure in the last lap
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quote:
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best result mclaren will get this season

i expected both of them to have some kind of failure in the last lap
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