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Originally posted by SMC Someone ever let you choose if you want to pay taxes or not? Ever tried refusing paying taxes and thereafter refusing to be kidnapped to police station/court/jail. Taxation is upheld with threat of force. Period. There is no way of denying that. If i threatened to kill you if you don't pay me an amount of money in two weeks i think you would feel pretty dissatisfied even if i wasn't physically present holding a gun to your head when you send me the money.

Actually, I do have some sympathy with doctrinaire libertarianism. I'm just not sure how workable it would be in practice.

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Originally posted by SMC Someone ever let you choose if you want to pay taxes or not? Ever tried refusing paying taxes and thereafter refusing to be kidnapped to police station/court/jail. Taxation is upheld with threat of force. Period. There is no way of denying that. If i threatened to kill you if you don't pay me an amount of money in two weeks i think you would feel pretty dissatisfied even if i wasn't physically present holding a gun to your head when you send me the money .

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Actually, I do have some sympathy with doctrinaire libertarianism.

Then don't give me the "no one holds a gun to your head" type of stuff, i hear to much of that as it is.

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I'm just not sure how workable it would be in practice.

That's not a real concern since there is nothing to put in practice, it's simply about making a moral stand and leaving people alone who want to be left alone. It's not like one has to feel responsible about anything, like when something is imposed on people.

I don't think that "non-interference" is all that there is to being moral, although it is certainly part of it.

But all of this is totally off-topic.

Trance....well i cant explain it. its like a drug 2 me.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I don't think that "non-interference" is all that there is to being moral, although it is certainly part of it. But all of this is totally off-topic.

Non-agression is the keyword.

And yes it's slightly OT.

Good night.