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Originally posted by Q5echo so you and i agree that constitutions require a sense of value to be effective and that given time, among other things, that value can be sustained?

I don't think that you only need time for the value to be sustained. Or that it is really much of a factor in time this will all pass and there will be no value in any current constitution.

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Originally posted by Zild I don't think that you only need time for the value to be sustained.

of course not. thats why i said "among other things". however, time is essential. we tend to forget that in our haste as a society that wants everything RIGHT NOW!

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Or that it is really much of a factor in time this will all pass and there will be no value in any current constitution.

honestly? that all depends on it's value

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Originally posted by Q5echo EDIT> the Contsitution was written on parchment not paper BTW

Hemp parchment to boot, how's that for reefer madness irony?

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Originally posted by Lilith Its pretty damn clear here what he thinks of anyone that isnt 'working class' Sure, I do it for myself and ultimately a way of securing a future for any of my offspring along the way in their future so they have their clean water, food and a house over their head. But I'm really not snapping anyones necks in the process. Why? Because no one else is going to look after my ass and I'm certainly not looking to the state safety nets to secure my future.

... and my point is - you're doing it for the love of your children, not for the love of money. Not everyone's like that.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium ... and my point is - you're doing it for the love of your children, not for the love of money. Not everyone's like that.

...and more or less proves that youre at least not experienced or worldly enough to run around judging people on what they do with their lives.

You can think all you want really about the subject, but the worlds full of thinkers who do nothing, people who do and dont think and a very small minority who think, do and effect change.
Something you will not really be able to do from Canada.

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Originally posted by Lilith ...and more or less proves that youre at least not experienced or worldly enough to run around judging people on what they do with their lives. You can think all you want really about the subject, but the worlds full of thinkers who do nothing, people who do and dont think and a very small minority who think, do and effect change. Something you will not really be able to do from Canada.

I've seen the kind of people who love money. I know the things they'd do to get it. Money is an addiction to these people. Yeah, I am not a mind reader though, so I wont be able to tell every time if a person is like that, but I know they're out there. This kind of people dont just announce their intentions, you know.

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