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Q5echo
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How Gore's massive energy consumption saves the world

March 4, 2007

BY MARK STEYN Sun-Times Columnist

Stop me if you've heard this before, but the other day the Rev. Al Gore declared that "climate change" was "the most important moral, ethical, spiritual and political issue humankind has ever faced.'' Ever. I believe that was the same day it was revealed that George W. Bush's ranch in Texas is more environmentally friendly than the Gore mansion in Tennessee. According to the Nashville Electric Service, the Eco-Messiah's house uses 20 times more electricity than the average American home. The average household consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours. In 2006, the Gores wolfed down nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours.

Two hundred twenty-one thousand kilowatt-hours? What's he doing in there? Clamping Tipper to the electrodes and zapping her across the rec room every night? No, no, don't worry. Al's massive energy consumption is due entirely to his concern about the way we're depleting the Earth's resources. When I say "we," I don't mean Al, of course. I mean you -- yes, you, Earl Schlub, in the basement apartment at 29 Elm St. You're irresponsibly depleting the Earth's resources by using that electric washer when you could be down by the river with the native women beating your loin cloth dry on the rock while singing traditional village work chants all morning long. But up at the Gore mansion -- the Nashville Electric Service's own personal gold mine, the shining Cathedral of St. Al, Tennessee's very own Palace of Versal -- the Reverend Al is being far more environmentally responsible. As his spokesperson attempted to argue, his high energy usage derives from his brave calls for low energy usage. He's burning up all that electricity by sending out faxes every couple of minutes urging you to use less electricity.

Also he buys -- and if you're a practicing Ecopalyptic please prostrate yourself before the Recycling Bin and make the sign of the HDPE -- Al buys "carbon offsets," or "carbon credits." Or, as his spokesperson Kalee Kreider put it (and, incidentally, speaking through a spokesperson is another way Al dramatically reduces his own emissions), the Gores "also do the carbon emissions offset."

They do the Carbon Emissions Offset? What is that -- a '60s dance craze? No, it's way hotter. I mean, cooler. All the movie stars are doing it. In fact, this year's Oscar goodie-bag that all the nominees get included a year's worth of carbon offsets. Totally free. So even the stars' offsets are offset. No wonder that, when they're off the set, they all do the offset. Look at Leonardo DiCaprio: He's loaded with 'em, and the chicks think he's totally eco-cool. Tall and tan and young and lovely, the boy with carbon offsets goes walking and when he passes each one he passes goes aaaiiieeeeeeeee!

How do "carbon offsets" work? Well, let's say you're a former vice president and you want to reduce your "carbon footprint," but the gorgeous go-go Gore gals are using the hair dryer every night. So you go to a carbon-credits firm and pay some money and they'll find a way of getting somebody on the other side of the planet to reduce his emissions and the net result will be "carbon neutral." It's like in Henry VIII's day. He'd be planning a big ox roast and piling on the calories but he'd give a groat to a starving peasant to carry on starving for another day and the result would be calorie-neutral.

So in the Reverend Al's case it doesn't matter that he's lit up like Times Square on V-E Day. Because he's paid for his extravagant emissions. He has a carbon-offset trader in an environmentally friendly carbon-credits office suite who buys "carbon offsets" for Al from, say, a terrorist mastermind in a cave in the Pakistani tribal lands who's dramatically reduced his energy usage mainly because every time he powers up his cell phone or laptop a light goes on in Washington and an unmanned drone starts heading his way. So, aside from a basic cable subscription to cheer himself up watching U.S. senators talking about "exit strategies" on CNN 24/7, the terrorist mastermind doesn't deplete a lot of resources. Which means Tipper can watch Al give a speech on a widescreen plasma TV, where Al looks almost as wide as in life, and she doesn't have to feel guilty because it all comes out . . . carbon-neutral!

And, in fact, in the Reverend Al's case it's even better than that. Al buys his carbon offsets from Generation Investment Management LLP, which is "an independent, private, owner-managed partnership established in 2004 and with offices in London and Washington, D.C.," that, for a fee, will invest your money in "high-quality companies at attractive prices that will deliver superior long-term investment returns." Generation is a tax-exempt U.S. 501(c)3. And who's the chairman and founding partner? Al Gore.

So Al can buy his carbon offsets from himself. Better yet, he can buy them with the money he gets from his long-time relationship with Occidental Petroleum. See how easy it is to be carbon-neutral? All you have do is own a gazillion stocks in Big Oil, start an eco-stockbroking firm to make eco-friendly investments, use a small portion of your oil company's profits to buy some tax-deductible carbon offsets from your own investment firm, and you too can save the planet while making money and leaving a carbon footprint roughly the size of Godzilla's at the start of the movie when they're all standing around in the little toe wondering what the strange depression in the landscape is.

A couple of days before the Oscars, the Reverend Al gave a sell-out performance at the University of Toronto. "From my perspective, it is a form of religion," said Bruce Crofts of the East Toronto Climate Action Group, who compared the former vice president to Jesus Christ, both men being (as the Globe And Mail put it) "great leaders who stepped forward when called upon by circumstance." Unlike Christ, the Eco-Messiah cannot yet walk on water, but then, neither can the polar bears. However, only Al can survey the melting ice caps and turn water into whine. One lady unable to land a ticket frantically begged the university for an audience with His Goriness. As the National Post reported, "Her daughter hadn't been able to sleep since seeing ''An Inconvenient Truth.'' She claimed that seeing Mr. Gore in person might make her daughter feel better." Well, it worked for Leonardo DiCaprio.

Are eco-celebrities buying ridiculousness-emissions credits from exhausted run-of-the-mill celebrities like Paris, Britney and Anna Nicole? Ah, well. The Eco-Messiah sternly talks up the old Nazi comparisons: What we're facing is an "ecological Holocaust, and "the evidence of an ecological Kristallnacht is as clear as the sound of glass shattering in Berlin." That 221,000 kilowatt-hours might suggest that, if this is the ecological Holocaust, Gore's pad is Auschwitz. But, as his spokesperson would no doubt argue, when you're faced with ecological Holocausts and ecological Kristallnachts, sometimes the only way to bring it to an end is with an ecological Hiroshima. The Gore electric bill is the eco-atom bomb: You have to light up the world in order to save it.

İMark Steyn 2007[/QUOTE]


Steyn, always a treat.

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That was great!

quote:
It's like in Henry VIII's day. He'd be planning a big ox roast and piling on the calories but he'd give a groat to a starving peasant to carry on starving for another day and the result would be calorie-neutral.


Furthermore, the Ruth's Chris/Chili's analogy stands.

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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
The point is that Al Gore is a hypocrite. No need to complicate it beyond that. It doesn't matter how much wealth I have--I should be trying to reduce my overall raw consumption in order to truly minimize the effects I have on the environment now. Whether nor not I end up trading carbon credits to make myself look better, I should always first try to curtail my overall use. I can recylce cans, but if I'm drinking a case of Coke a day, I'm still using a lot more than average (and probably much more than most would think is truly necessary).


Look for the last time, please explicitly state how he is being a hypocrite with respect to what he is advocating? He's advocating carbon neutrality. Is he or is he not living a lifestyle of carbon neutrality??? I would respond to the rest of your arguments however this is the 3rd or 4th time I've asked you to respond to this one simple question and I'm still waiting for a response. I'm not trying to be cheeky but it appears we're trying to argue several arguments at once with no discernable resolution in sight with this path. Let's simplify this argument as much as possible so we can truly understand what's up for debate. You answer my specific question and I will be more than happy to respond to your multiple arguments.


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Shakka
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quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Look for the last time, please explicitly state how he is being a hypocrite with respect to what he is advocating? He's advocating carbon neutrality. Is he or is he not living a lifestyle of carbon neutrality??? I would respond to the rest of your arguments however this is the 3rd or 4th time I've asked you to respond to this one simple question and I'm still waiting for a response. I'm not trying to be cheeky but it appears we're trying to argue several arguments at once with no discernable resolution in sight with this path. Let's simplify this argument as much as possible so we can truly understand what's up for debate. You answer my specific question and I will be more than happy to respond to your multiple arguments.


If he's only arguing for carbon neutrality, (vs. conservation and minimization of raw use) then he's not really advocating anything at all other than perhaps to draw funds to Generation Investment Management LLP by using fear and scare tactics. Basically they sell glorified vouchers. And if that be the case then he is certainly a hypocrite for accusing Bush of doing the same thing with respect to terror and Iraq. Talk about the biggest marketing scam of all time...

Edited to get this on the record because it makes me chuckle.

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Al Gore is Hollywood's darling.


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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
If he's only arguing for carbon neutrality, (vs. conservation and minimization of raw use) then he's not really advocating anything at all other than perhaps to draw funds to Generation Investment Management LLP by using fear and scare tactics. Basically they sell glorified vouchers. And if that be the case then he is certainly a hypocrite for accusing Bush of doing the same thing with respect to terror and Iraq. Talk about the biggest marketing scam of all time...

Edited to get this on the record because it makes me chuckle.


My interpretation is that he's arguing for environmentalism with small, achievable steps through initiatives such as carbon awareness and carbon neutrality. He's not advocating radical environemntalism whereby people give up their lifestyles and embrace trees, he's advocating sensical decision making within people's means. This equates with fear tactics??? What do you think Bush is doing with initiatives to wean the US off of middle easter oil? You think very many democrats say that everything is peachy and we shouldn't try to diversify the source of our strategic reserves? It's not a fear tactic when economics, science, or common sense, play a key role in the argument.


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quote:
Originally posted by occrider
This equates with fear tactics???


He claims it is a major crisis, not I. I wonder if he even knows what he's talking about, or if he simply invented a new kind of environmentalism. I don't know about you guys, but I think Web 2.0 is pretty sweet. I'm sending Alie a thank you note now.



Man, it's almost soothing.

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He is very inspirational. I <3 Occ!


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quote:
Originally posted by occrider
My interpretation is that he's arguing for environmentalism with small, achievable steps through initiatives such as carbon awareness and carbon neutrality. He's not advocating radical environemntalism whereby people give up their lifestyles and embrace trees, he's advocating sensical decision making within people's means.


What he is doing is making himself look like a complete hypocritical idiot talking head who is advocating that we conserve resources and save the environment while he consumes and wastes more resources than 10 'normal' families and then buys some carbon credits so he can sleep well at night.

A small, achievable step would be for him to walk the walk and get rid of the one massive energy hog house he has. Or if Tipper just can't manage to downsize from 10,000 square feet to something more reasonable then he should at least install enough solar panels or wind turbines or whatever other renewable energy resource he wants on his property until he is either off the grid or only consuming as much power as the average family.

I know Al is wealthy and Tipper is used to her posh lifestyle, so I don't expect him to give up the big fancy house. But he has money so its sure as hell within his means to install enough alternative energy generating sources on his property to offset his massive usage. If he does that, if he takes the steps within his means to really reduce his consumption, not just buy some bullshit carbon credits, then I'll listen to him and take what he says seriously. But for now, he is not the right person to be spreading the environmental message.

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To all the Al Gore hatterz:

Can someone please hook me up with some good sources on how Al Gore allegedly pays the Carbon Bucks to an agency that he was involved in. I went on that website, Wikipedia, looked around but could not validate my point.

Reason I am asking is that I prepared a massive college report on global warming that largely debunks it, I have referenced it well too, and I need this point.

But, to all the global warming supporters - I believe that the issue is not global warming, but environmental destruction, which DRIVES the negative environmental developments.

I am presenting my report to an audience of 500 people, after my last October's successful report on deforestation, so I've been working very hard lately to make sure this one is not all one-sided like Al Gore was, plus I would like to point out things people didnt know about before. Information must be heard!!!


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quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


To all the Al Gore hatterz:

Can someone please hook me up with some good sources on how Al Gore allegedly pays the Carbon Bucks to an agency that he was involved in. I went on that website, Wikipedia, looked around but could not validate my point.

Reason I am asking is that I prepared a massive college report on global warming that largely debunks it, I have referenced it well too, and I need this point.

But, to all the global warming supporters - I believe that the issue is not global warming, but environmental destruction, which DRIVES the negative environmental developments.

I am presenting my report to an audience of 500 people, after my last October's successful report on deforestation, so I've been working very hard lately to make sure this one is not all one-sided like Al Gore was, plus I would like to point out things people didnt know about before. Information must be heard!!!


This what you're looking for?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...RTICLE_ID=54528

Good luck with your report

Here's another:
http://billhobbs.com/2007/02/more_on_gore.html

Sneaky; buying 'carbon credits' from a company he happens to own.


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Can someone please explain how being chairman of an incorporated 501 (c) (3) makes Gore the owner? maybe non-profits are run differently in Canada, but tax laws are slightly different here in the states.

from the IRS website
quote:
The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other designated individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such private interests. No part of a section 501(c)(3) organization's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a personal and private interest in the activities of the organization. If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any organization managers agreeing to the transaction.


irs.gov

i hope this helps clear things up for the herring hunters

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