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MrJiveBoJingles
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and was that Christians or catholics?

Both.

And even the Protestants had their "fun," if we want to split hairs over which groups are "true Christians."

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Can you link to the source or give me the title of the book you read that shows the Nazis were Christian?

Also, what denomination of Christianity? Because Nazi Christianity is not a recognized form, I believe.

and if you count silly policies like stalin starving out the breadbasket areas the count jacks up quite a bit.

And, all youre really doing is proving what I said - People are gonna do what theyre gonna do no matter what.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

Google works too: http://www.google.com/search?client...=utf-8&oe=utf-8



The problem Orbax is that Religion gives people an easy means to justify anything, the good and the bad. It is also by far the easiest one to exploit because people are stupid.

Take it out and its one less problem to worry about. From their we can work on getting rid of Nationalism and Racism as a means for justifying evil.

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Both.

And even the Protestants had their "fun," if we want to split hairs over which groups are "true Christians."


There was only 1 true Christian and he died a while ago.

Branding people who fall short of the ideals espoused doesnt make them the epitome of the faith.

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Why would you ask me that? and was that Christians or catholics? Or are you being a silly head and trolling like you like to do.



You make statements like "Godless States" and that sounds like trolling to me.


And last time I checked both Christians and Catholics pretty much are the same thing in the end.

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There was only 1 true Christian and he died a while ago.

Branding people who fall short of the ideals espoused doesnt make them the epitome of the faith.

I think the problem is more about intolerance rather than religion specifically. Religion can actually increase tolerance of differences in some cases.

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There was only 1 true Christian and he died a while ago.




Thanks fryer tuck

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There was only 1 true Christian and he died a while ago.

Branding people who fall short of the ideals espoused doesnt make them the epitome of the faith.



So wouldn't any following based on his teachings, and those who claim to be Christian really in the end be an afront to Christ?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

Google works too: http://www.google.com/search?client...=utf-8&oe=utf-8



The problem Orbax is that Religion gives people an easy means to justify anything, the good and the bad. It is also by far the easiest one to exploit because people are stupid.


I didnt ask if google worked I wanted your research links. You can simplify it in the future without the BS.

I also fail to see how religion is any more at fault than naturalism when you realize youre dead in 60 years why not take whatever you can get from everyone you can?

Its a pretty wild claim to make that if we got rid of religion everyones pupils would shrink and their lives would come into focus and everyone would just pull out the rake and start gardening.

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Branding people who fall short of the ideals espoused doesnt make them the epitome of the faith.



If you don't put at least 5 dollars in the collection plate your going to hell.

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So wouldn't any following based on his teachings, and those who claim to be Christian really in the end be an afront to Christ?


uhh explain that ...I cringe to use the word..."logic"

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If you don't put at least 5 dollars in the collection plate your going to hell.


Not if your bank account only has 50 bucks in it

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uhh explain that ...I cringe to use the word..."logic"



Because if he was the only true christian then the ones who founded the churches in his name, catholic, protestant, or otherwise would not be true christians.

Thats how I read it at least.

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