Most of the old analogue synths that ppl rave about are simple beasts, but their secret is their sound of which a huge part is played by their osc's
Vanguard definitely has a sound that is unique among its peers, this is what makes it useful.
Most sounds you need when making a tune will be of the standard variety e.g saw lead, square bass etc. Your weird leads and effects might not be able to be made with vanguard but it doesn't matter. You use vanguard to make certain sounds not all the sounds in your tunes.
Originally posted by echosystm
Because he is.
Who has the nerve to say something is "toss" when they don't even know what it is? An idiot.
Who says something is a toy when countless top 10 tracks have been made from it? An idiot.
People don't like to waste their time on idiots that won't listen. It's like having sand kicked in your face when you're trying to help; the forum is better off without them. Someone who acts like a know it all and starts controversy, when they obviously don't know shit, deserves to get cut down. And that is exactly what happened.
whats your problem?
how the fuck is he an idiot may i ask you? because he asked a question you did'nt like?
Apr-25-2007 15:56
DeZmA
Synth Addict
Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Lalaland
quote:
Originally posted by rubez
i know its a limited product. am i wrong?
i cant imagine any expert raving about vanguard, doesnt mean there isnt good examples of trance using vanguard.
Synthation are experts and they made a nice sounding soundset for it. If you're asking for help on a forum you might try and listen to the more experienced members.
If you use RM and FM synthesis along with standard subtractive, you can create some really cutting leads. Also vibrato and a slow filter envelopes that comes down on the note after a second or two really helps.
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Apr-25-2007 16:59
jey
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: N.Ireland
quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
how can you give an opinion on it when you don't understand synthesis yet. You dont know how to create whatever type of sound you fancy. You lack the knowledge and expertise to master any synth.
Only when you have better skills and experience can you possibly comment on how good a synth is...
my point exactly! im no pro and i own a jp-8080 along with v-station, vanguard, pro 53, z3ta+ and some others and i can honestly say that i use vanguard as much as v-station and eq'd and compressed correctly its sounds very clean and crisp....
I got a sound out of Reasons subtractor the other week that was amazing, just one subtractor- 2 osc's and a flanger unit hooked up, and i came up with a preset which stands up to any virus and should be impossible with that particular synthesizer. sounds amazing, full, round, the works, but of course most of what i try to do with the subtractor is thin because its a thin weak synth, but when i came up with that preset it made me remember that somtimes it doesnt matter what you use its more what you do with it. a lot of synths have hidden power if you tweak the right settings. Somtimes you just have to work a little harder.
Apr-25-2007 18:09
Ry Thomas
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Vanguard is a cool synth, sound a bit 'tinny or metalic' at times but with the right compression, eq and a bit of distortion this synth can scream for sure
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Apr-25-2007 20:27
DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
quote:
Originally posted by CODY JONES
whats your problem?
how the fuck is he an idiot may i ask you? because he asked a question you did'nt like?
You know, it kind of defeats the purpose of using a sock puppet when you make the sock puppet look just as stupid and annoying as you look (maybe even more so).
Why can't you just leave without a fuss? This has nothing to do with seniority, and I don't think I've ever said this to a new member here before, no matter how irritating, but - you're not wanted here. That ought to be abundantly clear to you and "rubez" by now.
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Originally posted by DigiNut
You know, it kind of defeats the purpose of using a sock puppet when you make the sock puppet look just as stupid and annoying as you look (maybe even more so).
Why can't you just leave without a fuss? This has nothing to do with seniority, and I don't think I've ever said this to a new member here before, no matter how irritating, but - you're not wanted here. That ought to be abundantly clear to you and "rubez" by now.
+1
I think this thread should be an example of what NOT to do when joining this forum. Get it in the stickies under "Please refrain from doing this" or something similar.
But would anyone read it?
Apr-26-2007 11:10
rubez
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2007
Location:
there are tons of threads created that have already been covered in the stickies, doesnt mean u cant get another opinion or point of view. just a few stuck up people who think they know everything.
Apr-26-2007 14:04
substorm
Onova|2007
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tranceland
quote:
Originally posted by rubez
. just a few stuck up people who think they know everything.
I take it that you are talking about your self and your friend cody in this matter!
because he asked a question you did'nt like?
