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Originally posted by Perfect_Cheezit Republicans are more supportive of free-market solutions

"free-markets" means to them that they allow the corporate powers to determine how the game is to be played. And they don't write the rules for a truly free market, rather a market of the few who agree to keep their prices high. They're are too many examples of how deregulation has been a disaster for the consumer. They only support "free-markets" when it suits their corporate lobbyists. For example, with the drug bill they passed the government isn't allowed to negotiate with the pharmaceuticals for a fair price. I mean we can't do that, I mean that just wouldn't be fair.

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Originally posted by igottaknow "free-markets" means to them that they allow the corporate powers to determine how the game is to be played. They're are too many examples of how deregulation has been a disaster for the consumer. They only support "free-markets" when it suits their corporate lobbyists. For example, with the drug bill they passed the government isn't allowed to negotiate with the pharmaceuticals for a fair price. I mean we can't do that, I mean that just wouldn't be fair.

supersize me.

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Well, it is kind of hard to argue against the notion that regulation can slow the business process and have negative effects on small businesses especially, because corporations netting billions each year won't be affected at all really.

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Originally posted by Perfect_Cheezit Well, it is kind of hard to argue against the notion that regulation can slow the business process and have negative effects on small businesses especially, because corporations netting billions each year won't be affected at all really.

yeah, false.

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Are you going to actually debate with me, or just make shitty worthless comments?

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Originally posted by Perfect_Cheezit Are you going to actually debate with me, or just make shitty worthless comments?

I'm deciding.

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here just one example of deregulation at its finest. I mean all we need is free markets and the rest will take care of itself. Corporations can be trusted not to put their interest to turn a bigger profit over the public for fairly priced services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Califo...ctricity_crisis

"California's energy reserves were low enough that during peak hours the private industry which owned power-generating plants could effectively hold the State hostage by shutting down their plants for "maintenance" in order to manipulate supply and demand. These critical shutdowns often occurred for no other reason than to force California's electricity grid managers into a position where they would be forced to purchase electricity from other suppliers who could charge astronomical rates. Even though these rates were semi-regulated, the companies (which included Enron and Reliant Energy) controlled the supply of natural gas as well. Under regulation the price of natural gas dictated the price of electricity, so manipulation by the industry of natural gas prices resulted in higher electricity rates that could be charged under the semi-regulations."

Btw, by a stange coincidence my state of CT also deregulated its Electricity and we now pay the highest in the nation. Go free markets!

Last edited by igottaknow on May-12-2007 at 03:15

k that just convinced me. I'll leave you two alone.

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Heh, alright. And I get where one would argue about the falsity behind "regulation not affecting big business" because obviously it can and it does. But when I made my post I was thinking more along the lines of something like a minimum wage increase, where small businesses like a local gas station that already pay a higher wage will be forced to raise their wages to attract more workers, taking a profit hit. Minimum wage increases in massive financial corporations that turn over trillions of dollars each year will not be the ones complaining as much as local businesses.

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Yeah i guess i should have expressed myself clearer. More specifically, in our project, we consider the possibility of some kind of single-payer model in the US of today. Thaks for all the interesting input!

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