quote:

Originally posted by Zild I don't mean trainwrecking but you can definitely get away with quite a bit more on a very loud club system than you can on studio monitors or headphones.

This is definitely true - I played on the largest system I've ever played on this past weekend (main room @ Vision in Chicago), and honestly - there were quite a few times where I felt like I was getting away with murder.

You obviously can't trainwreck a mix to hell, but there are definitely certain things you can get away with on a large system as opposed to home.

___________________
last minute disco dot net

quote:

Originally posted by RJT This is definitely true - I played on the largest system I've ever played on this past weekend (main room @ Vision in Chicago), and honestly - there were quite a few times where I felt like I was getting away with murder. You obviously can't trainwreck a mix to hell, but there are definitely certain things you can get away with on a large system as opposed to home.

Aye that can be true, on the otherside of it though, it can also sound a hell of a lot worse in the DJ booth than it does on the dance floor as you are often behind the sound and get the sound bouncing off all sorts of shit, where as on the dance floor you have the sound directed at you and you have lots of bodies absorbing bass.

Tell you what though, here is a little test for you guys. Next time you play in a club see if you can switch off the monitor and match to the beats coming from the dance floor?

Trust me it can be done but takes some getting used to. That's how it used to be done way back in the day.

Cheers
Nem

___________________
https://www.mixcloud.com/Calvin_Karass/

quote:

Originally posted by Nemesis44 Aye that can be true, on the otherside of it though, it can also sound a hell of a lot worse in the DJ booth than it does on the dance floor as you are often behind the sound and get the sound bouncing off all sorts of shit, where as on the dance floor you have the sound directed at you and you have lots of bodies absorbing bass. Tell you what though, here is a little test for you guys. Next time you play in a club see if you can switch off the monitor and match to the beats coming from the dance floor? Trust me it can be done but takes some getting used to. That's how it used to be done way back in the day. Cheers Nem

Indeed, and I've definitely played a shady rave or two with no moniters where that had to be done and it was an absolute nightmare.

On the other hand, the Sound @ Vision wasn't too bad, and the moniters were actually really, really sound - very crisp, nothing too crunchy at all. I guess to me it just seemed very easy, as long as my records were well beatmatched, to hear every little bit of what was coming from the mixer, and it really, really just seemed easier than I had ever experienced to EQ sharply and control the sound the way I wanted too.

Fuck - that's really convoluted and perhaps not the best way to express what I'm trying to say. I'm not feeling too articulate at the moment, I hope that made some sense.

___________________
last minute disco dot net

quote:

Originally posted by RJT Indeed, and I've definitely played a shady rave or two with no moniters where that had to be done and it was an absolute nightmare. On the other hand, the Sound @ Vision wasn't too bad, and the moniters were actually really, really sound - very crisp, nothing too crunchy at all. I guess to me it just seemed very easy, as long as my records were well beatmatched, to hear every little bit of what was coming from the mixer, and it really, really just seemed easier than I had ever experienced to EQ sharply and control the sound the way I wanted too. Fuck - that's really convoluted and perhaps not the best way to express what I'm trying to say. I'm not feeling too articulate at the moment, I hope that made some sense.

I think so

Nem

___________________
https://www.mixcloud.com/Calvin_Karass/

quote:

Originally posted by Nemesis44 Tell you what though, here is a little test for you guys. Next time you play in a club see if you can switch off the monitor and match to the beats coming from the dance floor? Trust me it can be done but takes some getting used to. That's how it used to be done way back in the day. Cheers Nem

Either that, or headphone mixing.

Both are a pain in the arse. I've had to do headphone mixing a few times; wouldn't recommend.

___________________
Mix archive | Melbourne club guide

quote:

Originally posted by RJT This is definitely true - I played on the largest system I've ever played on this past weekend (main room @ Vision in Chicago), and honestly - there were quite a few times where I felt like I was getting away with murder. You obviously can't trainwreck a mix to hell, but there are definitely certain things you can get away with on a large system as opposed to home.

At both Avalon and Vanguard I can hear even the tiniest slips. I like them though, because I can tell that the DJ is working it like I do, and I like to hear how well they correct even the smallest of slips, and how attentive they are.

Although usually when I make a face or say "hear that?" people look at me like I'm fucking psycho They're mostly non-DJs though, which is something I would tie in to the "getting away with more".

quote:

Originally posted by Beat Blog Either that, or headphone mixing. Both are a pain in the arse. I've had to do headphone mixing a few times; wouldn't recommend.

I don't do it anyway else, and I'm glad I say I do... For some it's a pain in the ass to do it all on headphones, but I'm glad I can say I can do that without any problems.

___________________

Storyteller Website | Storyteller @ Facebook | Storyteller @ Beatport | Storyteller @ Soundcloud | Stephen J. Kroos - Europa (Storyteller Remix)
Anthony Mea - Get It On (Storyteller Remix)

quote:

If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

Definitely agree... just had my first two club gigs and I recorded both of them. After listening back to them recorded I can tell I was getting away with way more than I realized.

Wav is better cuz it contains more data