I remember J00F playing Carte Blanche at GKGG quite some time ago. A very intelligent and non-commercial piece of music that is.

I swiftly made an exit to the techno tent.

And I'm sure money and recognition weren't on his mind whatsoever when he was doing mix CDs for Godskitchen and Telstar...

I'm sure he probably "hated it" when those CDs were appearing in HMV, mind.

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming Yes I’m a DJ that plays a more unique style of Trance, some say perhaps a more pure form (though that doesn’t make me better than the rest, don’t read this wrong!). Remember I was playing Trance when it was born way back in 1991, so I remember Trance music how it was intended and sometimes feel today’s Trance isn’t really Trance. Similar to today’s Electro, it’s nothing like the original form of Electro. So I want to remind people and producers that there is another form Trance music out there as it seems to be completely forgotten about and over looked.

Another reason why older trance was typically more trance-inducing on dancers was the fact they weren't paying as much attention to the guy playing it. Folks would actually get lost in music (attain a TAZ, so to speak) rather than cheer on the DJ. Not saying this doesn't happen still, but it certainly becomes a secondary factor when tons of clubbers are willing to pay top dollar just to see Tiestin van Corstenfold play other people's music.

As a DJ yourself, John, I'm not sure if you've seen things from a different perspective, but couldn't it also be argued that trance lost its way when the guy playing it became more important than the actual music he was playing?

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Originally posted by Sykonee As a DJ yourself, John, I'm not sure if you've seen things from a different perspective, but couldn't it also be argued that trance lost its way when the guy playing it became more important than the actual music he was playing?

You hit the nail. I would say that is the main reason why trance have declined.

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Originally posted by sleepydragon stop being picky for god sake i know psy is still trance but of course their different why do u think its called psy-trance.

"Psy" and "trance" are not "different." That's like saying, "Dogs and chihuahuas aren't the same thing!" Psy is one type of trance, like chihuahuas are one breed of dog.

And I have heard people say things like, "Oh, that's not trance, it's psy!!" As if psy weren't trance.

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming This is going to be a longwinded response, bere with me….

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I enjoy posting here...but a...downfall I have to watch my grammar,spelling...So I’ll try and be careful how I speak!

It's bere bear.

cheers !

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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming After spending the past few years sifting through 7 – 8 pages of new Trance releases every week in Beatport to find the odd good none generic track can get really frustrating, hence my recent outbursts! If I wind back 10 years visiting my local record shop I’d be spoiled for choice with all sub categories of Trance music, so I had the tools for my set. I’d get frustrated in a good way because I had too much music and couldn’t fit them all into my set, but today we don’t have enough new music and have to make tracks last a few months. This also becomes more apparent when I play the occasional Classic set, I’m spoiled for choice when I sift through some fantastic tacks with huge Wow factor from the mid 90’s. It will be interesting to see what DJ’s will play in 10 years time at a classics night from mid 2000, with they have the same feeling?

Well you can't have it both ways..
You have been a great champion of the digital format and downloads.
With that has come the generic 'music by numbers' sound, in all genres and sub genres- it is a large cause of that IMHO.
By that I mean, it is now so easy for any twat to knock up some crap, due to the easy availability of software (both legal and illegal), and then get it onto beatport or wherever, that noone puts anywhere as near as much into it anymore.
No one has to put some cash into it to press up 500 whites- they are just throwaway things knocked up on a crack copy of cubase, that cost nothing to distribute to people via these download sites. Therefore, the passion is not there as there is no risk.
Hence, you have a situation with ten times as much shite to sift through, all of which are trying to sound like the last big hit in that genre.


In ten years time, not as many people will have classics to play from the present, as a) the majority is shit, and b) their hard drives with their $1.50 worth of mp3 data will have gone tits up long ago.
Its music made for instant gain, with no longevity planned for it. And it is a shame.

Not saying the digital age is entirely bad- just with it comes a downside, as you are noticing now....

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles "Psy" and "trance" are not "different." That's like saying, "Dogs and chihuahuas aren't the same thing!" Psy is one type of trance, like chihuahuas are one breed of dog. And I have heard people say things like, "Oh, that's not trance, it's psy!!" As if psy weren't trance.

Given that psytrance culture has remained relatively isolated for much of its unique history, I think it is fair to say that "psy" and "trance" are different things. Yes, psytrance is a type of trance (although I might argue with you that some "trance" just ain't trance) but at the same time, the artists and labels are clearly distinct from what we (on the psytrance side) call mainstream trance. Having been involved in the scene for more than a decade, I can agree that psytrance has become more known and integrated with EDM culture as a whole in the last few years (J00F playing a key role here), but it still remains largely segregated from everything else going on. Besides, psytrance is hardly anything like a chihuahua... a more apt analogy might focus on the genre's lupine qualities

u rocked dallas john!!!


sorry...but some of crowd was shit.....they were expecting u to play tiesto avb a&b bullcraps

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Originally posted by basilisk J00F expresses many things I agree with... it just doesn't help that the "article" (somewhere between an interview and a story) was written at a second-grade reading level. Plus: Koxbox, a relative unknown? I mean, who is writing this shit, and have they just gotten into EDM in the last two years? "The future of music... isn't music..."

Defenitly agree with you there.

I think the thing with psytrance and other trance is theres been a lot of eliteism and seperation either way. I started out listening to epic trance... but I just got bored of everything just going up and down/other generic riffs. Found out about infected mushroom... listened to them for a couple of months and got bored of listening to only them and then went back to trance. The problem is the same thing happened. I have to agree with Joof that trance has just become too Generic these days. I can go and listen to Dream Dance volume 2 but I have a hard time listening to too much else trance in a row.

So what if he's moved onto psy? Not everyone wants to be listening to the same sub genre all their life (although I'd like to argue that psy is certainly quite a bit more different then other sub genres). I'ts still trance not rock or country. I know lots of people at my school here who previously listened to house or for god sakes R'n'B.. couldn't stand trance and I've now got them listening to psy.

P.S. Thanks for making the effort to post on this board Joof. Theres some very intelligent people who post at Tranceaddicts and I think Joof makes no exception.

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i don't see anything wrong with what john said. i agree the majority of producers make music for the wrong reasons. there is a huge emphasis on getting released and recognized and thrown into a professional status. producers today want to make a career of producing and so that changes the motivation.

i'm not saying there is anything wrong with wanting recognition for your work, but i think it's just a different mentality so it produces a different result.

agreed with mr flemming 100%.


trance is so shite these days.

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