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Originally posted by Trancer-X Doesn't anyone wonder what in the world they could be doing there without any sort of environmental, governmental, or at least Congressional oversight? What thousands of scientists could be working on on a daily basis in an above top secret, underground facility that spans for many, many miles?

What do you think is happening there ? Do you believe they have captured aliens/alien spaceships ? Or that DARPA is developing secret technology far beyond current industrial capabilities ? Come to think of it, the Blackbird SR-71 was far too developed for its time. Do you think Lockheed Martin Skunk Works had some sort of access to secret alien spaceship designs ? How could they conceive such futuristic engineering designs?

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Did anyone watch the special they had on CNN tonite on the whole UFO subject? from what I heard it was a great show with lots of ex millitary personals and such.

would love to see the vid if anyone can find it.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

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Originally posted by Renegade Christopher Hitchens put it pretty well: The idea that it is incumbent upon the skeptic to refute claims made by the credulous, no matter how spurious they might be, is patently ridiculous. I'm quite big on the idea that any argument (whether it pertains to UFOs, or religion, or politics, or anything else) should live and die by its own rules. If scant evidence is enough reason to suggest that something is true, then we needn't go to much effort to produce a better argument to suggest that it isn't true. Alien species are not visiting this planet, full-fucking-stop. Until a better contrary case is put forward by the credulous than the fact that strange lights are occasionally seen in the sky, then I can't see how the debate isn't aborted before it begins.

<- That's there just because I saw a post from you in this thread.

Before I say anything, let me make it perfectly clear that I don't believe "Aliens" are visiting this planet (and I myself personally find the idea quite ridiculous, or atleast how seriously some people take it). Now as far as the part in bold goes, for the sake of arguement, that's an assertion supported by no evidence eigther. Did you turn over every rock at the same moment in time all over the planet? Basically, your argument is as devoid of any real substance as there's (well, not quite, but you know what I'm saying). So what it boils down to is this... Do you believe in the validity of the phenomenon or do you? I personaly don't know if aliens exist, atleast ones stupid enough to visit this planet! I just don't believe they do. BTW, I'm bored, but I guess you that figured out .

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Originally posted by d-miurge These are not natural phenomenons. It's all about Chuck Norris.

Well at least we know Chuck Norris exists, with hard evidence to prove it. In the range of possible explanations, Chuck Norris birthing the universe is more plausible than aliens engineering the human race as slave miners

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

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Originally posted by venomX Well at least we know Chuck Norris exists, with hard evidence to prove it. In the range of possible explanations, Chuck Norris birthing the universe is more plausible than aliens engineering the human race as slave miners

LOL

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Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Why would the aliens, who are far more advanced technologically, physically and spiritually/mentally would impose themselves and their views on us? Universe is enormous. Current studies of Mars, the moon Europa and other bodies will conclude that life and living organisms is not just exclusive to Earth. In my opinion, it is impossible for this universe to be devoid of intelligent life forms beyond our planet. Impossible. These creatures are watching us, trying to help bit by bit but not intervening in our affairs. There's a lot of evidence out there to seriously consider their existence, its just a lot of it is manipulated and controlled by those in power who dont want people to know about it. Specifically organized religion.

Yeah, yeah, I know what many are thinking ... but dont bother posting back silly replies about your scepticism unless you have something productive to say.

There are books like Day After Roswell, written by a high-ranking former Pentagon official (Philip J. Corso) who worked for many years deep in government jurisdictions and secret installations under several presidents, who has credentials and who wrote brilliantly without prejudice about what he saw as reverse engineering of alien technology. The sad thing is that people often wait until government's blessing to believe in something. Just because the government denies the aliens, as they deny many other things among their lies, doesnt mean they're right. They hold all the keys to all the doors, sadly.

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^Sorry but all this government secrecy reminds me of the soviet government and how much they lied. I am nearly 110% certain that the government has no alien tecnology and cannot travel at the speed of light or use worm holes.
Sorry to burst your bubble but such advanced technology would be hard to hide. And little green men would also have a hard time hiding.

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Originally posted by ams.rld ^Sorry but all this government secrecy reminds me of the soviet government and how much they lied. I am nearly 110% certain that the government has no alien tecnology and cannot travel at the speed of light or use worm holes. Sorry to burst your bubble but such advanced technology would be hard to hide. And little green men would also have a hard time hiding.

I didnt say that the aliens have passed on all their advanced technology to the inferior primitive humans ... all that we got was their damaged Roswell craft at most, and the likes of other similar crashes. But that was enough for some reverse engineering ...

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I didnt say that the aliens have passed on all their advanced technology to the inferior primitive humans ... all that we got was their damaged Roswell craft at most, and the likes of other similar crashes. But that was enough for some reverse engineering ...

how do you know? There is no possible way of knowing that that crash was of an alien vehicle from outer space. And still than. The reverse engineering would TAKE a very long time to understand. I understand that gov scientists are smart but they are not that smart...