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Originally posted by Jayx1 It would matter at a soccer game if the person complaining was right next to the whistler and didnt have a choice whether or not to move. The biggest complaint ive read here is that "they blow it right into my ear"... well what makes soccer or concerts any different? If you dont like whistles then thats fine. But at least come to accept that they are part of the party. If not, dont go. Quite simple! Whats next? You dont like how someone is dancing so you push them out of your way? Wait wasnt that another thread on here some time ago? All i see here are uptight partiers

The analogy isn't accurate. People go to a soccer game to WATCH the game of soccer. They don't go to hear the game. The whistles therefore don't take away from the experience. If anything, they allow the fans to interact with the action taking place on the field by matching and overpowering the referee (who also has a whistle).

People go to clubs to HEAR the music that's why people complain about some dimwit whose sole preoccupation is to whistle out of tune while the DJ is trying to spin a set. Whistles are a remnent of the rave culture. They don't belong in clubs - but most people are willing to tolerate them as long as they aren't abused.

Your analogy of whistles at a football game is akin to the lightshow in a club. It's basically irrelavant and only enhances or mildly takes away from the experience.

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trance and techno are remnants of raves and many say that they dont belong in clubs either.

Whistles are part of club culture and if people cant accept that then it's their problem.

There are many great aspects to a night out and some that arent so much. But im pretty sure that people can tolerate what they think are inconveniences. The impression I always get from TOTA reviews and comments about parties is how spoiled everyone around here is.

There's no doubt there are quite a few whiny ****s on this board...like everywhere else. Still, with regards to whistles, I think it's a good thing that the most you ever hear is 2-3 morons with those things perpetually glued to their lips. Imagine a room with 25% of the clubbers all whistling out of sync, doing their own thing. What a ruck that would be!

A few whistles, even out of tune aren't bad...and for the most part I agree people should be more tolerant. Then again, I still have a soft spot for glowsticks (although I haven't played with a pair myself for over 7-8 years). I don't mind people having fun, it's just when they do dumb shit like clean a greasy floor by spilling water on it that I feel like ripping out their spinal cord.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Trance Addict Party Mantra (Otherwise it sucks) -Cover must be $5 for 30 Djs otherwise they are gouging -Club must be Half empty so I can flail -people should only be reacting to the music how and when I would -glowsticks only ifI happen to like them, otherwise they arent cool and should be banned -Headline Dj must point in my direction and wink or else that Dj has no crowd interaction and sucks -Drinks must not cost more than they would at the LCBO or else its "gouging" -Air must be below room temperature. If a TA breaks a sweat, the club sucks for not properly ventalating. -anyone who dares to try and liven the mood by saying "fuck yeah" or whistling is a total idiot because i didnt think of that idea myself. Of course, when i come up with a gimmick it will be ultra cool because i thought of it and everyone else will be haters. -people who talk about "vibe" at a club and how important this is to a good time are old school. - The club owner/promoter must not be allowed to make more than $50 or $60 profit on the party, otherwise he's a slimeball and is an opportunist -Drugs aren't cool unless I took them Did i miss anything?

wow, jay, wow. You'll make a great politician.

Kytracid, being one of those people that sometimes spills water on the floor, I can tell you I only do it when the floor is sticky cause it's harder to move your feet around when the floor feels like you're dancing on Scotch tape. I don't cover the whole floor, just the two square feet where my feet are. That said, if I can bruck the fuck out on the slippery floor, you should have no trouble walking on it. Or just don't walk through my dancing space. That works too.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 If you dont like whistles then thats fine. But at least come to accept that they are part of the party. If not, dont go. Quite simple! Whats next? You dont like how someone is dancing so you push them out of your way? Wait wasnt that another thread on here some time ago? All i see here are uptight partiers

So one person should be allowed to make many other people annoyed/uncomfortable?

People dancing like retards dont bother me - aslong as they are not bumping/pushing into me/getting into my space. They can dance like a spazz all the fuck they want.

However, the person blasting into a whistle IS invading myspace, and is affecting my enjoyment of the evening.

No.

This one guy did it for like 4 hours straight to every fackin song, so friggin loud and not on beat. I left, came back, and he was still doing it! SO ANNOYING! I don't get how people have no idea how annoying they are sometimes. Just don't get it lol

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Originally posted by kaniz However, the person blasting into a whistle IS invading myspace,

too much internet for you, bub.

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Originally posted by kaniz So one person should be allowed to make many other people annoyed/uncomfortable? People dancing like retards dont bother me - aslong as they are not bumping/pushing into me/getting into my space. They can dance like a spazz all the fuck they want. However, the person blasting into a whistle IS invading myspace, and is affecting my enjoyment of the evening.

actually he isn't. Invading your space would be if that person climbed on your back and blew that whistle into your ear. That would be invading your space. You always have the option of moving away, but you don't want to do that do you ? You want to stand where you want and want him to move or to stop blowing that damn whistle. Seems like you want to set more conditions on him, then he would on you.

I'm not a big fan of whistles, but I realize they are a part of club culture. If you don't want to hear em, move away from the source. Clubs are noisy environments, you have to deal with sounds / smells / lighting that you don't like. If controlling your environment is paramount, then perhaps choosing a venue where 4000 people come togather isn't ideal to begin with.


Mind you, there are clubs that don't allow glowsticks, whistles, airhorns and other club trinkets. They are usually smaller venues where such devices would effect the sound quality and ambience. Go there if you really hate your space being invaded. A club like Guv has always struck me as a rave within a club type party. So if you choose to go there, expect to compromise a little.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur wow, jay, wow. You'll make a great politician. Kytracid, being one of those people that sometimes spills water on the floor, I can tell you I only do it when the floor is sticky cause it's harder to move your feet around when the floor feels like you're dancing on Scotch tape. I don't cover the whole floor, just the two square feet where my feet are. That said, if I can bruck the fuck out on the slippery floor, you should have no trouble walking on it. Or just don't walk through my dancing space. That works too.

First off, spilling water on the floor doesn't clean it. It makes a greasy mess where once there was a sticky one. It makes the floor treacherous by taking away any traction you might have had. You want to clean a floor, next time you spill water on a sticky spot make sure you have a bucket with some suds in it, a mop and a scrub brush as well. Then, get down on your hands and knees and clean that spot, and let it dry instead of making it worse.

Also, with regards to your dancing (if you really want to call slipping and sliding dancing) - no real dancer WILL EVER spill water on a spot to help them dance. It doesn't matter if you're a bboy, a tapdancer, ballet, crunk, jazz, waterever. If you're serious about busting a move then you'll realize that at some point both your feet will have left the ground. At that stage the most important function of the surface will to provide you with a grip when you land. Slippery floor provide no grip...that's why lazy retards spill water on it. It's an easy way to glide and do all the moves that would otherwise require some real footwork. Instead of moving from their heel to toe, instead of shifting weight from side to side, they spill water on the spot, and just shuffle and scrape their feet.

It's not a solution though, the floor isn't getting cleaned. All you're doing is making a bad situation even worse. After about half an hour the slickness turns back to stickness...which is why you see people continually spilling water on 'their' spot.

I'm not sure if any of this will get to you, or if you'll care even if it does. From my experience, people who spill water on the floor and then claim that their doing it because the floor is sticky are just lazy, inconsiderate dancers....No real dancer will ever make a floor slippery. EVER! Which is why you'll rarely see a good dancer going to some of these clubs and busting out. Water spillers aren't dancing, they're taking a shortcut - a dangerous one that will at some point result in injury either to themselves, or to someone else.

PS. I have no intention of dancing on your wetspot although I do have reservations of how well anybody can dance on an oilslick. With that being said - This is me, calling you out. Name the next jam you're at, and I'll turn up...you can dance on a slippery floor and I'll bust on a nice 'safe' dry patch and we'll let those who are gathered around say who's dancing and who's not.

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Originally posted by Kytracid First off, spilling water on the floor doesn't clean it. It makes a greasy mess where once there was a sticky one. It makes the floor treacherous by taking away any traction you might have had. You want to clean a floor, next time you spill water on a sticky spot make sure you have a bucket with some suds in it, a mop and a scrub brush as well. Then, get down on your hands and knees and clean that spot, and let it dry instead of making it worse. Also, with regards to your dancing (if you really want to call slipping and sliding dancing) - no real dancer WILL EVER spill water on a spot to help them dance. It doesn't matter if you're a bboy, a tapdancer, ballet, crunk, jazz, waterever. If you're serious about busting a move then you'll realize that at some point both your feet will have left the ground. At that stage the most important function of the surface will to provide you with a grip when you land. Slippery floor provide no grip...that's why lazy retards spill water on it. It's an easy way to glide and do all the moves that would otherwise require some real footwork. Instead of moving from their heel to toe, instead of shifting weight from side to side, they spill water on the spot, and just shuffle and scrape their feet. It's not a solution though, the floor isn't getting cleaned. All you're doing is making a bad situation even worse. After about half an hour the slickness turns back to stickness...which is why you see people continually spilling water on 'their' spot. I'm not sure if any of this will get to you, or if you'll care even if it does. From my experience, people who spill water on the floor and then claim that their doing it because the floor is sticky are just lazy, inconsiderate dancers....No real dancer will ever make a floor slippery. EVER! Which is why you'll rarely see a good dancer going to some of these clubs and busting out. Water spillers aren't dancing, they're taking a shortcut - a dangerous one that will at some point result in injury either to themselves, or to someone else. PS. I have no intention of dancing on your wetspot although I do have reservations of how well anybody can dance on an oilslick. With that being said - This is me, calling you out. Name the next jam you're at, and I'll turn up...you can dance on a slippery floor and I'll bust on a nice 'safe' dry patch and we'll let those who are gathered around say who's dancing and who's not.

Lol, get a hold of yourself. I never said I'm a "real dancer", or that I'm even any good at it. I prolly suck. I don't know, and I don't care. I go to clubs to listen to music, dance, and have a good time. Not to showoff my "skills" to anyone who is around me. So there's no need to "call me out" in a dancing competition like you're John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever, and I'm going to steal your girl by cheating through spilling water on the dancefloor. Sorry to disappoint, but there'll be no dance-offs between my posse and yours.

I also never mentioned doing it so the floor is clean. I know it doesn't make it any cleaner. It just makes it less sticky, which is the effect I'm going for. I guess I am one of those lazy, inconsiderate dancers you're talking about. Yes, gliding on the floor makes it easier than dealing with my soles sticking to the floor. Yes, that is precisely why I do it.

What I don't understand is why something that I do that helps ME dance is inconsiderable, or why it bothers YOU so much. I only spill enough to get rid of the stickiness, so there's plenty of grip left on the floor. And if the floor is sticky, that's because of drunk idiots who keep spilling their fruity drinks on the floor, so I'm creating as much of a safety hazard as they are. Plus, I already said I only do it where my feet hit the floor, so YOUR safety is not compromised in any way. Finally, if I felt unsure of my balance after I spilled water on the floor, I obviously wouldn't do it anymore because it'd be pretty fucking embarrassing to slip and fall while dancing.

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