his set here in Ottawa was kinda Tiesto fluffy and hard tech as well, kinda a mishmash, imo. One or the other..

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Once I took a piss in front of everybody at Stereo. Put the garbage under the mixer, and did it right there while people were dancing and screaming. people thought I was playing with the mixer but I was playing with my zizi.

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Originally posted by Enjoy a classic from the aria days: me: are you on TA? girl: uhhhh... im on speed

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Originally posted by Spunkerspawn Guys take a chill pill and relax, Trance music is going strong and is not just made up of the mainstream names you seem to blurt out constantly (Armin, Ferry, Tiesto...). Embrace all styles of EDM and just enjoy the music No need to go on a crazy tangent whenever you hear the word 'trance'. These kinds of useless arguments remind of soccer hooligans trying to butcher each other just because they think their team is the best. All I have to say to you haters is R O F L.

See that's the thing u don't understand

We've been there, and we've done that.

Most of us, actually most people who like Edm music starts with trance, it's easily accecible, easy to listen to, filled with emotions and cheesy. Most people start with it then discover other style and so on and so on, we've had that discussion many many many many many times over my years as a Ta i'm not going to try and educated another retard.

The thing is trance is and WILL always be the same thing by it's own definition and it's own rules. Not only that but it tries not to get itself be influenced by other genres of music and if, by any luck, a producer tries to do something influenced by another genre, you, the fans, shoot him down and then that producers stops having any sort of popularity. Happened to Ferry Corsten when he tried to get influenced by some sort of electro a couple of years back. Happened to Oakenfold when he released his first Dj album ( yes i agree break trance was a horrible idea and the album was poorly produced, But still ) i could go on (sasha, digweed, seb fontaine, Bt) all dj's that, once they tried to get something new into trance music got shot down by the suposed "trance lovers".

Trance is the same thing it was last year, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, or at the start of it's creation. It has not moved because it cannot move because the "fans" don't want it to move to another direction. More than that, the "tranceaddict" that say they are opened to other genre of electronic music are the first one to say that they don't want so and so genre to influence trance 'cause it has to stay "pure".

By the way, for those who think i hate trance, i don't, i just think it hasn't evolved and, because of that, i'd rather listen to what created trance in the beginning 'cause at least THAT was original.

And btw, as I've said more than once on this board, give yourself 2-3 years you'll either
a) stop listening to Edm alltogether and get bored of it like most people
b) Start listening to other genre and understand how silly u were before thinking that there is ONLY trance music.
C) Continue to listen to trance but try and discover other stuff anyways ( much like what alec used to be around 2-3 years ago :P )

p.s. Alec thanks for the good word I know i haven't been around much and that u missed me, but you're still a fag ( not as much as Marcus tho :P)

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Alex: You're a fucken idiot if you think the superstar scene is over. Have you heard of a guy called tiesto selling out 10 000+ arena's left and right on his elements of life tour? Things are just beginning bud. No one gives one fuck about sasha right now.


The genre trance has huge all around from 99 - 2001 or so. Even with paul oakenfold being the king back then and kick starting the "god dj" phase, the club scene was huge enough to sustain all the other more unknown trance dj's. Trance was huge. Massives were huge everywhere. The club scene was huge.

These days good luck finding a trance club with any medium size dj unless your name is one of the top five.

Although it is pretty obvious tiesto is going to take #1 again this year on DJ Mag and explode the north american market once again with his name alone. Just look at the LA show where he soldout 15 000 people in august.

Trance is dead. The superstar phase is far from over and in fact i think will become much larger in this continent.

from tiesto.com


"I'm going to do a full concert tour next year around the entire north american continent. Everywhere you talk from new york to LA to las vegas, the scene is ready to explode and i am going to try and push it as far as i can. We just had 15 000+ people in the LA for my concert at the sports arena which has never been done before."

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Originally posted by dartrance Alex: You're a fucken idiot if you think the superstar scene is over.

Wow.

Should I use a different word so you can understand better?

"Generation"

Once Tiesto, Digweed, Armin, Ferry, Cox, Deep Dish, and PVD are retired, there will not be a replacement set of DJs that will be AS big as them.

THAT'S what I meant.

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Originally posted by Alex Wow. Should I use a different word so you can understand better? "Generation" Once Tiesto, Digweed, Armin, Ferry, Cox, Deep Dish, and PVD are retired, there will not be a replacement set of DJs that will be AS big as them. THAT'S what I meant.

I think you're wrong-

As long as there is any art in it, there will be stars.

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Originally posted by KrinKer Most people start with it then discover other style and so on and so on, we've had that discussion many many many many many times over my years as a Ta i'm not going to try and educated another retard.

lol

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Once I took a piss in front of everybody at Stereo. Put the garbage under the mixer, and did it right there while people were dancing and screaming. people thought I was playing with the mixer but I was playing with my zizi.

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Originally posted by Enjoy a classic from the aria days: me: are you on TA? girl: uhhhh... im on speed

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Originally posted by dartrance from tiesto.com "I'm going to do a full concert tour next year around the entire north american continent. Everywhere you talk from new york to LA to las vegas, the scene is ready to explode and i am going to try and push it as far as i can. We just had 15 000+ people in the LA for my concert at the sports arena which has never been done before."

Trance is no longer a party scene music....its evolved into a concert with a whole mess of other crap going on in order for people to enjoy it....trance is all about showmanship now and not the music itself. I like trance but as chillin music not party music.

oh and as for the DJs I'd like to see in Montreal

Tiesto and Armin....that way they won't be in toronto

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Scott has been introduced to the rave scene, and Ecstasy, by Craig. The two of them go out on the weekends, with some of Craigs friends, and stay up all night, dancing in a drug-fueled trance.

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ok everybody !!! I'm about to give out some names

here they are :

DAVID WEST

DJ REMY (from Remy & Roland Klinkenberg) or both,
Ronski Speed,
Niklas Harding,
Matt Darey,
Kyau & Albert

these are all DJs/producers who haven't been to Montreal yet and some of them do not only play Trance in their sets... so it could please more people than just Krinker

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Originally posted by Allied Nations I think you're wrong- As long as there is any art in it, there will be stars.

Ya I agree there will be stars, but do you think the Zabielas/Fanciullis/SVDs/etc will become as huge as the Tiesto/armin guys?

I dunno, I cant see it happening.

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Originally posted by KrinKer See that's the thing u don't understand We've been there, and we've done that. Most of us, actually most people who like Edm music starts with trance, it's easily accecible, easy to listen to, filled with emotions and cheesy. Most people start with it then discover other style and so on and so on, we've had that discussion many many many many many times over my years as a Ta i'm not going to try and educated another retard. The thing is trance is and WILL always be the same thing by it's own definition and it's own rules. Not only that but it tries not to get itself be influenced by other genres of music and if, by any luck, a producer tries to do something influenced by another genre, you, the fans, shoot him down and then that producers stops having any sort of popularity. Happened to Ferry Corsten when he tried to get influenced by some sort of electro a couple of years back. Happened to Oakenfold when he released his first Dj album ( yes i agree break trance was a horrible idea and the album was poorly produced, But still ) i could go on (sasha, digweed, seb fontaine, Bt) all dj's that, once they tried to get something new into trance music got shot down by the suposed "trance lovers". Trance is the same thing it was last year, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, or at the start of it's creation. It has not moved because it cannot move because the "fans" don't want it to move to another direction. More than that, the "tranceaddict" that say they are opened to other genre of electronic music are the first one to say that they don't want so and so genre to influence trance 'cause it has to stay "pure". By the way, for those who think i hate trance, i don't, i just think it hasn't evolved and, because of that, i'd rather listen to what created trance in the beginning 'cause at least THAT was original. And btw, as I've said more than once on this board, give yourself 2-3 years you'll either a) stop listening to Edm alltogether and get bored of it like most people b) Start listening to other genre and understand how silly u were before thinking that there is ONLY trance music. C) Continue to listen to trance but try and discover other stuff anyways ( much like what alec used to be around 2-3 years ago :P ) p.s. Alec thanks for the good word I know i haven't been around much and that u missed me, but you're still a fag ( not as much as Marcus tho :P)

First of all, watch your mouth, no need for name calling in order to gain the upper hand in an argument, follow the advice on your signature

Second of all, you totally went off topic on my quote, I never said that trance is the only music genre there is, I said it is better to embrace all genres in order to gain a better understanding of EDM.

Also, Trance IS NOT JUST FORMED OF TIESTO ARMIN OR FERRY, stop spewing the handful of mainstream names you know off the bat and calling that the Trance Genre.
Although I do believe that those mainstream names did help skyrocket the genre's popularity among the non-EDM lovers as well.

Anyways KrinKer, you can go back to playing world of warcraft and eating your cheese puffs, because arguing with you is like trying to nail jello to a wall.

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Originally posted by Enigmatik Anyways KrinKer, you can go back to playing world of warcraft and eating your cheese puffs, because arguing with you is like trying to nail jello to a wall.

Hahahahahahahaha

That was funnies

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