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Originally posted by Alccode If you look at the original article that Magnetonium posted regarding these ruins off of Japan, you'll see that one of the scientists on the "other side" mention that the formations actually seem natural for the type of rock involved. From what I remember, that kind of rock tends to form sharp and straight boundaries like that seen in the photo. It makes it look like they're "stairs" but really they're not. (Kind of like how we tend to see human "faces" on stellar objects like the moon or Mars, but upon closer inspection they're just natural phenomena.) And even if you look at the picture, you'll see that, sure, it looks like steps in general, but actually, there are a lot of inconsistencies and imperfections -- weird angles and the like, that make it seem at least a strange design for a man-made structure, if not outright a natural phenomenon. I'm not totally against this and it would be pretty cool for us to discover an ancient underwater city (and all that implies, though maybe not going so far as aliens), but from the evidence and testimony so far it seems like it's probably more of a natural formation than anything else. At least the ones off the coast of Japan. Haven't seen pictures of the Cuban ones, etc., but it may be a similar case.

Indeed, that development burst my bubble big time when I researched further into it. But I didnt want to post the response. Rock formations do look very natural. But the ones off the coast of India, Cuba do not.

The big legend about Atlantis is bigger because of Plato. Plato wrote about many things, but in particularly the myths of great cities of Troy and Atlantis, which had a mythical status for generations. And so when Troy was actually discovered (not far from the ACTUAL Plato's description), the legend of Atlantis just exploded even further.

Either way, whether the ruins of Atlantis will be found or not, I believe it existed. It might have been destroyed too much, or it didnt have much of structures that could have survived long - what if much of their city was based from materials that break down over time sooner ... Things like wood dont survive in the water for long, and weathering has made even such massive events as meteorite impacts almost impossible to detect - ruins probably have deteriorated and dissoved already. But there's something missing from our past ... deep down, I feel it. And I know some people out there know about this or feel it too, and maybe even have proof. But that would be leaning towards conspiracy theories (I've heard that Freemasons have some esoteric knowledge that average people dont know).

I wonder, that our brains are so huge, we are so advanced and developed, yet so hear so often that we only use about few percents of the brain (one percent?). That doesnt make sense from evolutionary point of view - what is the rest of the brain used for? Or was it used earler to a greater capacity?


One of the questions I often ask myself is how did the Egyptians all of a sudden had the knowledge to design and build such amazing structure like Pyramid of Cheops. No, its not aliens for Christ's sake (in case someone thinks thats what I am hinting). At a time when they had a very poor knowledge of science and math as reflected in their technology and society.

Is the great flood just a mythical and biblical event or maybe it was an actual occurence that perhaps explains why so many of these cities and perhaps Atlantis itself was lost? Many cultures talk about the great flood around a similar time, and Christians were only one group - and they got the information from others.

And I covered many of my other thoughts earlier in the thread ...

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Originally posted by {b.s.e.} Right, so how does a primitive and unknown civilisation go about building a monument such as this 10,000 years ago? I can assure you, the Jews didn't build that.

yeah, im sorry. it was quite clearly aliens

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Originally posted by Alccode

you hear that Bull Shit Eater? that's reality calling. you've been gone for quite some time.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I wonder, that our brains are so huge, we are so advanced and developed, yet so hear so often that we only use about few percents of the brain (one percent?). That doesnt make sense from evolutionary point of view - what is the rest of the brain used for? Or was it used earler to a greater capacity?

gah

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html

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Originally posted by Magnetonium This clearly indicates that this is part of yet another ancient civilization that existed BEFORE the end of last ice age. Which indicates that living conditions at the time of Ice Ages are quite sustainable for life (look at the other massive ruins found deep in water around the world). AND, it is a substantial proof that the Ice Age is nothing more than a polar shift - NOT a climate change, because it would explain the huge rises and drops in water levels when the South Pole shifts over water, trapping massive amounts of water, and lowering worldwide ocean levels. The huge ruins that have been found off the coast of Cuba 650 meters deep indicate that.

You can't be serious with this statement

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, im sorry. it was quite clearly aliens you hear that Bull Shit Eater? that's reality calling. you've been gone for quite some time.

Incredibly clever..

Unfortunately for the lot of you, you have no interest in looking any deeper than your own superficial wit and skepticism.

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Divers Find World's Oldest Building by Trushar Barot A STRUCTURE thought to be the world's oldest building, nearly twice the age of the great pyramids of Egypt, has been discovered. The rectangular stone ziggurat under the sea off the coast of Japan could be the first evidence of a previously unknown Stone Age civilisation, say archeologists. The monument is 600ft wide and 90ft high and has been dated to at least 8000BC. The oldest pyramid in Egypt, the Step Pyramid at Saqqara, was constructed more than 5,000 years later. The structure off Yonaguni, a small island southwest of Okinawa, was first discovered 75ft underwater by scuba divers 10 years ago and locals believed it was a natural phenomenon. Professor Masaki Kimura, a geologist at Ryukyu University in Okinawa, was the first scientist to investigate the site and has concluded that the mysterious five-layer structure was man-made. "The object has not been manufactured by nature. If that had been the case, one would expect debris from erosion to have collected around the site, but there are no rock fragments there," he said.

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Originally posted by Aortik Ah yes, remnants of the elusive Mer-Jews.

Not the Mer-Masons?

see, that's all fine and (remarkably!) very interesting. but why is the first response always 'aliens!!'?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN see, that's all fine and (remarkably!) very interesting. but why is the first response always 'aliens!!'?

It was alien gods.

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http://www.grahamhancock.com/galler...er/yonaguni.htm



I'm anglin' that most of you live in denial 99% of the day. You probably double check to make sure your shit made it into the toilet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN see, that's all fine and (remarkably!) very interesting. but why is the first response always 'aliens!!'?

You would rule it out completely? We are living in an epoch within a 14 billion year old Universe, which now seems to be only one of many, many more. M-Theory/String theory suggests the nature of reality to be far more exotic than we ever thought possible..

I suppose it is rather irrelevant, given the current circumstances of the world, and to argue the existence of aliens based on the existence of an unknown, advanced and extinct society is rather moot.