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RJT
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Registered: Oct 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by darin epsilon
Sorry, I haven't had the chance to read all the posts, but I just wanted to chime in. Doesn't PVD pre-date 99% of the Trance producers out there right now? Most of these guys wouldn't even be here without his influence. He had like 3 or 4 full length albums (which were very good) before 2001.

As for the Britney Spears remix, PVD has accomplished so much in a short time that he is probably shooting for a Grammy.


I think the argument is more of a "What have you done for me lately?" one, as opposed to anyone really outright saying he hasn't done anything (which would clearly be an absurd claim to make, even for those of us who don't particularly care for PvD).

I really don't think it's all that dissimilar from the issue I have with contemporary Sasha.


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IndustryInsider
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Registered: Mar 2005
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I do find Paul van Dyk advertising women's underwear and other items on his MySpace page quite odd. I thought people were mistaken and it was a MySpace add, but it's not - it's actually PVD advertising this merchandise. Gives new meaning to the word "sell out". lol.

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UWM
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quote:
Originally posted by Skagdog
Ableton which mixes the tracks for him.


Yeah, no.

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JonDC
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Registered: Mar 2007
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quote:
Originally posted by Skagdog
1st. He doesn't mix. He uses Ableton which mixes the tracks for him.

2nd. I am not the person who is down at the front with a notebook. I have seen PVD loads of times for loads of years and heard him play the best sets of my life with his banging tunes and uplifting trance. Until this year he has been the best by far. But now you can only really call 50% of his set uplifting and thats including the usual "Nothin But You" and all the same tunes he plays every set. When we used to see him it used to be 3 hours of the most up to date uplifting music that you could possibly want to hear but now his sets dont flow or have any construction to them.


Abelton doesnt 'mix it for you' - you still have to tell it what to do. By excellent mixing, I didn't mean he is good at getting beats in time - thats the only part that Abelton does for you. The exciting thing that PVD does is layer tunes over the top of eachother, giving them a different feel - again if you go back to the example of the Global set, where he plays "need's to feel" over the top of something else, and it just sounds way more energetic. Doing things like that on the fly impresses me more than tight beatmixing, which anyone can learn to do in a couple of years.

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JonDC
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quote:
Originally posted by Skagdog
1st. He doesn't mix. He uses Ableton which mixes the tracks for him.

2nd. I am not the person who is down at the front with a notebook. I have seen PVD loads of times for loads of years and heard him play the best sets of my life with his banging tunes and uplifting trance. Until this year he has been the best by far. But now you can only really call 50% of his set uplifting and thats including the usual "Nothin But You" and all the same tunes he plays every set. When we used to see him it used to be 3 hours of the most up to date uplifting music that you could possibly want to hear but now his sets dont flow or have any construction to them.


Abelton doesnt 'mix it for you' - you still have to tell it what to do. By excellent mixing, I didn't mean he is good at getting beats in time - thats the only part that Abelton does for you. The exciting thing that PVD does is layer tunes over the top of eachother, giving them a different feel - again if you go back to the example of the Global set, where he plays "need's to feel" over the top of something else, and it just sounds way more energetic. Doing things like that on the fly impresses me more than tight beatmixing, which anyone can learn to do in a couple of years.

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jupiterone
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: los angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Skagdog
1st. He doesn't mix. He uses Ableton which mixes the tracks for him.



LyKe, AbLeTRon DoEs AlL THe MiXiNg FoR HiM.

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DJ Blitzkrieg
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Ya, his new album "In Between" is pretty bad aside for a few good songs.

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Rick D
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Trancer-Gal - Why was his set crap?

Skagdog - why do you care what he uses to mix, he has been around since before all of this new technology and has proved that he can mix using 2 1210's and a mixer, and has now moved with the times and braced the fantastic technology that we have today. I don't know if you DJ or not, but if you do and use vinyl still, you should understand how limited the options are other than just mixing 2 tracks together. Even with cd's you are still fairly restricted in comparison to Ableton. Personally i couldn't care less if he was using fisher price toy decks to mix, so long as the result sounded good and i liked what i heard.


As for the content of hs sets, i think generally its top drawer, i like the sounds he puts out, mixing uplifting with driving with techtrance with techno and quite a few other genres as well. I saw Filo & Peri a few months back, now that is what you call a boring set, 90 minutes of what sounded like the same basslines with different buildups, no progression at all.

When PvD gets it right he pwns any DJ on this planet IMO


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quote:
Originally posted by Rick D

When PvD gets it right he pwns any DJ on this planet IMO



You need to get out a little more i think, Richard

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InfiniteSquare
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quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
The difference, in my mind, is that all those artists had a shred of dignity.

Can you think of a more disgraceful artist for him to have remixed? Britney Spears is the poster child of musical blindness and delusion. Is this remix supposed to be a play of irony?


Titbalt: why would it matter who he remixes, all that should matter is what comes out of the speakers. if it's good, then it's good.. if it's not, well then it's not!

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quote:
Originally posted by InfiniteSquare
Titbalt: why would it matter who he remixes, all that should matter is what comes out of the speakers. if it's good, then it's good.. if it's not, well then it's not!

Well... it's not.


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true dat

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