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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I know, right? Totally unnecessary conjunction. My hands are cold, where the fuck is this global warming?

You have to own a hummer for it to work dude.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

Good. Fucking. Lawdy. I've been duped! You wanted the names and agendas of those profiting behind global warming, pkc? Here it is:

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Ocean Life in Hot Water Global warming is taking a toll on fish—and helping jellyfish rule the sea By Bjorn Carey | March 2007 1. Paltry Plankton Using a decade's worth of satellite data, scientists have determined that rising ocean temperatures are killing phytoplankton. Not only do these tiny plants form the base of oceanic food webs, they also process as much carbon dioxide and produce as much oxygen as land plants do. Although the findings may be influenced by El Niño, the researchers say the the study provides a sneak peek at how ocean biology will evolve as the climate continues to change. 2. Gasping for Air German scientists have found that eelpouts (elongated fish with eel-like heads) require more oxygen to perform basic functions as water temperatures increase—a big problem because warmer waters contain less oxygen. Despite eelpouts' better-than-average tolerance of thermal fluctuations, their population decrease in the North Sea has coincided with rising temperatures. Less-hardy fish such as Atlantic cod are suffering similar effects. 3. Heat Misers Jellyfish will actually thrive in warmer oceans—bad news for dozens of fish species, says biologist Martin Attrill of the University of Plymouth in England. Attrill has analyzed 50 years' worth of data from the North Sea and found that jellyfish are more prevalent in warm-water years. As seas continue to heat up, this could pose trouble for cod, salmon and other commercial fish: Jellyfish not only outcompete fish larvae for food but eat them too.

Jews and feminists were merely a distraction. Jellyfish shall inherit the Earth and WE ARE HELPING THEM.

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I really don't fucking care who or what caused it. All that really matters at this point is what we can do to lessen the blow and prevent it from progressing at an insanely fast rate (I quite liked Clovis' bullet comparison). Even if, for some strange reason, we aren't the primary factor we are still certainly an immensely large contributor.

All that "global warming" is to mass media and most of the public at this point is a blame game. It's bullshit and outright moronic. Then again, what else about general society isn't bullshit and moronic these days?

I give it about 10 years before society finally takes serious action.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Good. Fucking. Lawdy. I've been duped! You wanted the names and agendas of those profiting behind global warming, pkc? Here it is: Jews and feminists were merely a distraction. Jellyfish shall inherit the Earth and WE ARE HELPING THEM.

Are all of these organisms suddenly incapable of evolution? Everything I know tells me that the animals that live through the warmness will have offspring that will also tolerate it.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Good. Fucking. Lawdy. I've been duped! You wanted the names and agendas of those profiting behind global warming, pkc? Here it is: Jews and feminists were merely a distraction. Jellyfish shall inherit the Earth and WE ARE HELPING THEM.

i fucking read most of that before seeing your comments you cvnt

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Originally posted by eROs.au Are all of these organisms suddenly incapable of evolution? Everything I know tells me that the animals that live through the warmness will have offspring that will also tolerate it.

In exactly the same way dinosaurs were able to avoid destruction in the presence of a disaster blotting out the sun and causing widespread environmental havoc.

The only things that tend to survive rapid, extreme environmental changes are bacteria and smaller lifeforms that have the tendency to very quickly and predictively mutate. Humans and most other mammals don't, and you can easily see this effect if you go through layers of rock in the Earth.

This is exactly what this study says too, which evaluates how the change in the sea environment (if it progresses at its current rate) will effect lifeforms living there:

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Enhanced biological carbon consumption in a high CO(2) ocean. Riebesell U, Schulz KG, Bellerby RG, Botros M, Fritsche P, Meyerhöfer M, Neill C, Nondal G, Oschlies A, Wohlers J, Zöllner E. Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences, IFM-GEOMAR, 24105 Kiel, Germany. The oceans have absorbed nearly half of the fossil-fuel carbon dioxide (CO(2)) emitted into the atmosphere since pre-industrial times, causing a measurable reduction in seawater pH and carbonate saturation. If CO(2) emissions continue to rise at current rates, upper-ocean pH will decrease to levels lower than have existed for tens of millions of years and, critically, at a rate of change 100 times greater than at any time over this period. Recent studies have shown effects of ocean acidification on a variety of marine life forms, in particular calcifying organisms. Consequences at the community to ecosystem level, in contrast, are largely unknown. Here we show that dissolved inorganic carbon consumption of a natural plankton community maintained in mesocosm enclosures at initial CO(2) partial pressures of 350, 700 and 1,050 muatm increases with rising CO(2). The community consumed up to 39% more dissolved inorganic carbon at increased CO(2) partial pressures compared to present levels, whereas nutrient uptake remained the same. The stoichiometry of carbon to nitrogen drawdown increased from 6.0 at low CO(2) to 8.0 at high CO(2), thus exceeding the Redfield carbon:nitrogen ratio of 6.6 in today's ocean. This excess carbon consumption was associated with higher loss of organic carbon from the upper layer of the stratified mesocosms. If applicable to the natural environment, the observed responses have implications for a variety of marine biological and biogeochemical processes, and underscore the importance of biologically driven feedbacks in the ocean to global change. PMID: 17994008 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=PubMed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17994008&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

So the smaller organisms will likely be able to adapt

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle In exactly the same way dinosaurs were able to avoid destruction in the presence of a disaster blotting out the sun and causing widespread environmental havoc. The only things that tend to survive rapid, extreme environmental changes are bacteria and smaller lifeforms that have the tendency to very quickly and predictively mutate. Humans and most other mammals don't, and you can easily see this effect if you go through layers of rock in the Earth.

Our release of CO2 in the atmosphere isn't even close to as devastating as an asteroid hitting the earth.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

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Originally posted by eROs.au Our release of CO2 in the atmosphere isn't even close to as devastating as an asteroid hitting the earth.

No, but plenty of animals have met extinction from natural, slow climate change.

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

Ok good. So it's all natural

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

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Originally posted by eROs.au Our release of CO2 in the atmosphere isn't even close to as devastating as an asteroid hitting the earth.

No, but it is still devastating, and if you want to believe otherwise, fine but you're ignorant.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by jupiterone If you don't edit your post with *imo* you're going to get raped by everyone.

LOL u think i care what ppl on here think? most ppl here are assholes, why would i care. i dont respect ppl who are ignorant and act like an ass, if i dont respect u, i dont care.

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